Advice on buying seconds, please. And advice on buying pre-embargo Cubans.

[McDuffie for Congress]

I don't want to get taken for a ride. I am a neophyte smoker, and I don't want to buy some cheap garbage, but rather real seconds. And I don't want to buy some cigar that is only reminiscent of pre-embargo Cubans, but rather, real pre-embargos.

Can anyone here give me advice in tracking down these additions to my new humidors?

[adodson]

I like Rocky Patel Vintage 1990 seconds A LOT. Other Brothers here agree. Here's a recent thread discussing them.

http://www.botl.org/community/forums/showthread.php?t=13320

[CWS]

RP Vintage
RP Edge
RP 1992

All good seconds. The"Legal" Cubans made by Pinar in my opinion are not worth the money and nothing like the real thing. The aged, Pre-embargo cubans, when located can be stellar but very expensive

[Ratbert]

El Credito bundles are very good seconds of La Gloria Cubana, although admittedly I haven't smoked one in several years.

[Electric Sheep]

I *HIGHLY* recommend the Rocky Patel Vintage 1992 seconds that Cigars International sells. They are the friggin' BOMB!

[Greg]

I *HIGHLY* recommend the Rocky Patel Vintage 1992 seconds that Cigars International sells. They are the friggin' BOMB!:yes: These ARE very good.

[jmatkins]

RP Vintage
RP Edge
RP 1992

All good seconds. The"Legal" Cubans made by Pinar in my opinion are not worth the money and nothing like the real thing. The aged, Pre-embargo cubans, when located can be stellar but very expensive

Yea the few I have had of the Pinar's were OK but not worth the money. Way too many NC out there to smoke that are alot cheaper than they are.

[aleam_38]

I *HIGHLY* recommend the Rocky Patel Vintage 1992 seconds that Cigars International sells. They are the friggin' BOMB!
agree

[Two Jacks]

Consuegra (Connies) are also great "seconds". These are seconds from, Punch, Hoyo's, Bolivar, Sancho Panza, and the ERDM lines. Bundles run approx $25. Let them sleep for a bit or for a long while and you got one fine cigar. I know JR's sells them and I believe a few other retailers. A great bargain.

Pre embargo cigars or tobacco, you have a snowballs chance in hell finding any..............................buyer beware! Watch for false claims/fakes. Just mho.

[Halon]

Gotham Cigar Museum is in Clearwater, FL and they will sell you pre-embargoes by the box. Might cost you like $300/stick, but I'm unsure of where else to get them. They have a cigar-of-the-month club, three months is $150, and each month they'll send you 4 pre-embargo clear Havanas (made in the US). Might wanna check it out if you're really desperate.


TYLER

[smokem94]

The Pinars are crap!!!! IMO

[jwintosh]

i grabbed some of the gurkha pre-embargo churchills and torpedos. great smoke! as for seconds, can't help ya there....

[Fox]

Roly #4's are a great value. They are the Puros Indios Especial #4 seconds.

[CWS]

The Pinars are crap!!!! IMO

I was tryng to be a little more diplomatic Mike. I actually had one once that was good. The rest bleh.