UF-4 vs UF-13

[MU Mike]

you're pushing your luck boy.

[BrooksW]

the uf 4 was originally the jd 4 which was a more or less "private" blend for jonathan. very similar to the t 52 but with more ligero so it has more punch.
the uf 13 was another test blend, but don't really know much about it.
i do know i want MORE of the uf 4's, so if you don't like them............

Right...

JD4=MF4=UF4
MF13=UF13

The UF13 is the better cigar, IMHO...almost the perfect Liga at that size and RG...

~brooks

[LigaPrivadaFanboy]

I *should* already know this...is the UF13 to be released, or is it an indefinite test blend?

[BrooksW]

I *should* already know this...is the UF13 to be released, or is it an indefinite test blend?

Just in "testing" at the moment...Hopefully we will see it as the next release

[ssaka]

T52-4 was the final head to head blend that was competing internally with T52-3 to become the T52 final blend.

T52-4 was exceptional, in fact JD and I both liked it a slight bit better, but we were concerned that it tended to overpower some of the nuances in the liga and that we were sacrificing flavors for strength, so we ultimately decided that the T52-3 would be the final T52 blend.

JD for his own smoking pleasure kept having T52-4s made, but we banded them as JD4 so as to not cause confusion in the factory or with those he shared them with.

After he started handing them out, he decided that he didn't like putting his personal name on the product, so we started ringing them with MF-4 - it stood for what you think it does.

In the factory we kept tinkering with the T52-4/JD4/MF-4 blend to try to improve it (in our opinion) - goal was to keep the octane, but restore the depth of flavors... so we made a variety of minor liga tweaks and vitola changes to try and get it "perfect".

The result was the MF-13 - a robusto format. I think the MF-13 is better, not sure where JD stands on this - truth is the difference is so very minor between the two cigars I doubt most folks could even tell there was any difference unless they smoked them side by side... and maybe not even then, but we can tell... or so we tell ourselves. ;>

We started sharing both MF-4s and MF-13s at events and out of our pockets and they started to get some buzz online.

JD came to me one day with a My Father cigar and pointed out that Pepin's rings have an MF in the center of them. How both of us missed this is kinda crazy since we both smoke a lot of their cigars, but we did. So we decided to change the name to UF out of respect - we take pride in not knowingly copying others, so we rebanded all the MFs as UFs on our own accord.

UF stands for "Unico Fuerte."

So MF-4 = UF-4 and MF-13 = UF-13.

Netiher blend is really in testing per se, both are finalized blends. It just that neither is being produced for retail at this point.

We would like to release the cigar this year, but can't commit to doing so until we are confident we can get T52, Dirty Rats and L40s delivered on a regular basis to our customers as the UF-13 shares the same Stalk Cut Habano capa.

Now you know more than 99% of DE does about the lineage of UF-13... ;>

BR,

Steve Saka
Prez, Drew Estate

[ssaka]

Ps: In regards to the comment from the one person claiming the JD4 had less punch than the UF4 - this is the result of aging as the blends are identical. If we were to ever release the UF-13s it would be the first LP blend that is intended to be smoked "fresh" - in under 12 months from their factory release, better imo if under 3 months... we wouldn't age these cigars like the other LPs, we would ship them right after they were wicked - 30 days from bench to mouth. I like 'em young!!!

Steve Saka
Prez, Drew Estate

[thejavaman]

I don't think there's any other place on the net where you can get inside information like that "straight from the horse's mouth" so to speak. So cool!


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[njstone]

I had 1 JD4 band and it was one of the best Ligas I've ever had and one of the best cigars i had last year! So I'd say they DO age well, Steve . Of course I'd still smoke 'em fresh

[SurpriseMVP]

Sounds as though I better smoke m UF13 sooner than later.

[calgon]

Doesn't get much cooler than that. Now i'm on a mission to find some of these!

[Jonathan Drew]

MISSING YOU GUYS, but I couldn't resist one thing ... Surprise MVP ... I got everybodys (BOTL) tel from the event except yours .... hit me up ASAP on my FB with your cel or have BRandon P or Slave2theAxe give mine to you ....

Thanks and God bless everyone in 2012.

JD

[JayD]

Great to see you back in action JD.

[whodeeni]

Thanks for the info Steve!

[StaceBerkland]

Ps: In regards to the comment from the one person claiming the JD4 had less punch than the UF4 - this is the result of aging as the blends are identical. If we were to ever release the UF-13s it would be the first LP blend that is intended to be smoked "fresh" - in under 12 months from their factory release, better imo if under 3 months... we wouldn't age these cigars like the other LPs, we would ship them right after they were wicked - 30 days from bench to mouth. I like 'em young!!!

Steve Saka
Prez, Drew Estate

Steve, thanks for the in-depth background info on the UF-4 and UF-13 blends. Very helpful to have this information on hand. I echo TheJavaMan's sentiment - you just can't beat getting information like this straight from the creators. Peace to all!

[Red Raider]

Now I am even more confused...
Please forgive my ignorance here, but my local B&M does not cary LP, therefore, I am just getting into the whole LP thing... I LOVE their cigars!

I have a couple of sticks that have a white paper band with a "JD LP #4" on them. I bought them a few years back and couldnt bring myself to smoke them. I bought a couple of 9's and a t52 (which has a brown logo rather than blue???) Long story short, is the LP JD #4 the same as the JD4 - thus MF4?

Should I smoke 'em or hold onto them a little longer? Once i smoke them, i have no way of gaining more.

Again, sorry for the ignorance on LP cigars, I am trying to learn.

Thanks,