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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFoot View Post
    I love when people say that Eli has been lucky in his Superbowl wins....come on get real.

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    Really? You don't think they got a bit lucky this year? A few badly dropped passes go the other way and that game has a different outcome. Pats were also without a 100% Gronkowski, so that's one major threat gone due to bad luck on a tackle.

    They were 9 and 7 in the regular season and couldn't beat some of the worse teams in the league. But, no, not lucky I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iCraig View Post
    Really? You don't think they got a bit lucky this year? A few badly dropped passes go the other way and that game has a different outcome. Pats were also without a 100% Gronkowski, so that's one major threat gone due to bad luck on a tackle.

    They were 9 and 7 in the regular season and couldn't beat some of the worse teams in the league. But, no, not lucky I guess.
    Yet they beat the teams they needed to beat when it counted. Please, move on....yes 9-7 mediocre I agree. 4-0 when it mattered.

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    Luck?..These are supposed to be pros. The only Luck in the NFL will be drafted by Indy..which looking at the topic is a bit ironic. In all honestly though...teams do get lucky at times but..injuries? yeah they happen..the Giants lost a lot of their secondary early..heck Blackburn originally was cut, but then saves the day on that INT..the Bears lost Cutler when it looked like things were starting to click...stuff happens like that. The drops? Hey dropped passes are part of the game..its not because they were unlucky or God hates them and wants the other team to win its because they didn't do their job.
    If 'Karma' really does exist..What the heck did the Cubs ever do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCraig View Post
    Really? You don't think they got a bit lucky this year? A few badly dropped passes go the other way and that game has a different outcome. Pats were also without a 100% Gronkowski, so that's one major threat gone due to bad luck on a tackle.

    They were 9 and 7 in the regular season and couldn't beat some of the worse teams in the league. But, no, not lucky I guess.
    Yep, I guess the fact that time of possession was 66%-33% does not matter. The G-Men completely outplayed, out coached and out worked. Not to mention the Pats didn't have the defensive play calls.

    And I am definitely NOT a Pats fan in case you can't tell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlohaStyle View Post
    Very debatable... The Colts have had 2 Defensive MVP candidates Bob Sanders (won it in 2007) and Dwight Freeney. They've had a decent O-line anchored by Jeff Saturday, excellent WR's in Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne, great RB play from Edgerrin James etc. Manning, Harrison and James were the top 1-2-3 combo in the entire league for multiple years. It's only been the last couple years where their "team" hasn't been that great...

    The Pats never had a great RB in Brady's tenure, they didn't have a great WR in Brady's Super Bowls... Moss/Welker was after. They were known for their no-named defense for their Super Bowl days, although their LB's and Seymour became pretty damn good/known.

    I personally think Brady is the tops of the ones being discussed. Peyton is by far the best pure QB mechanically/intellectually speaking, but I give weight to the intangibles and knack for winning that Brady has that Manning doesn't. Manning is great at game planning and knowing what needs to be done, but he just never had that extra intangible that Brady has.

    And no, I'm not a Pats fan... LOL
    simply put, having an awesome passer like Manning really opens up the running game. can make a mediocre running back look like an all star. and a passer like manning can make good receivers great, and great receivers into Hall of Famers.

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    Peyton and Brady are legendary QB's and will go down as two of the GOAT's in the game.

    Eli is not really even close to their level yet. The regular season does count, and Eli Supporters seem to ignore this. Eli has had 1 very good regular season in his career and the rest have been pretty meh, with one being pretty awful.

    If Eli can get 4-5 more regular seasons like the one he just had, then we can have the conversation. But right now, he is a distant third.
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