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so i was looking at a bunch of mold vs. plume threads having a laugh because of the conversation in Boudie's thread and seeing pics of cigars from like the early 90's or older it struck me that I can't even really comprehend having a cigar for that long and then i got to thinking about what it was like back then.

what was it like being in the hobby 30, 40 or even more years ago? Ive heard people talk about a cigar boom but i dont know anything more than that. where there as many people smoking back then or more or what? how was the culture back then compared to today? what was bran availability like?

so yeah, FOGs tell your stories im really curious about what it was like.
 
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so i was looking at a bunch of mold vs. plume threads having a laugh because of the conversation in Boudie's thread and seeing pics of cigars from like the early 90's or older it struck me that I can't even really comprehend having a cigar for that long and then i got to thinking about what it was like back then.

what was it like being in the hobby 30, 40 or even more years ago? Ive heard people talk about a cigar boom but i dont know anything more than that. where there as many people smoking back then or more or what? how was the culture back then compared to today? what was bran availability like?

so yeah, FOGs tell your stories im really curious about what it was like.
I am tagging this for responses - I'm curious as well!
 

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I started smoking in the late 60s....I was 13 years old and loved...loved cigars. El Productos, A&C and some handmade cigars from Mall Stores ( Tinder Box.....which is still in business btw....I used to hit this place every week in HS and got the big green Churchills ) which were about as sophisticated as it got. In the early 80s the first cigar boom started and you had to be in Miami and Ybor City to really appreciate it....I went to college in Tampa in the early 70s and it was a great time. Fast forward to around the mid 80s to 1990s as that was the glory years and now.....the amount of brands is staggering. The quality is unmatched but the CCs in the 80s were....still are spectacular. I started buying Cohiba Espys and Siglos for the last 20 years and they are still...the best cigars bar none....at 20 years they are heavenly.
 
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I started smoking in the late 60s....I was 13 years old and loved...loved cigars. El Productos, A&C and some handmade cigars from Mall Stores were about as sophisticated as it got. In the early 80s the first cigar boom started and you had to be in Miami and Ybor City to really appreciate it....I went to college in Tampa in the early 70s and it was a great time. Fast forward to around the mid 80s to 1990s as that was the glory years and now.....the amount of brands is staggering. The quality is unmatched but the CCs in the 80s were....still are spectacular. I started buying Cohiba Espys and Siglos for the last 20 years and they are still...the best cigars bar none....at 20 years they are heavenly.
i would imagine it was much harder to get CCs back then since the internet didnt exist yet, did you just have to know someone or how were you able to buy them?
 

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Started cigars just out of high school in the early 70's. First big order was from Thompsons for a full box of "freshly rolled" sticks. I was toast. i have always been a box buyer. CI was one of my early favs because you could buy a box, try one and send them back if you didn't like it. How many did I send back? None. Can't try just one. With those beautiful descriptions and ads I just knew I was missing something that the reviewer found. I also bought at duty free shops every chance I could get grabbing Mac's and Partagas because of the names and boxes. This was where I also was introduced to Cubans. Hard transition from a Macanudo to a Cohiba. Wow did those seem strong. The boom was interesting because everyone had sticks and they all sounded great. We all figured out that staying with the tried and true worked better and there really wan't a great $1.00 cigar. Sticks wer massed produced, poorly made and cheap.

Went through the Cuban phase like most folks and accumulated 100's of boxes of aged quality sticks. The problem is that only smoking Cubans is like only drinking french wine. I found each country and each blender had their own nuances. To pass on a fine Nicaraguan product or a Dominican beauty is to miss the full experience of cigar smoking. Today I smoke a mix of everything. Partially because my job is to try new product and decide whether to carry them and distribute and partially because the quality of cigars seems to improve every year. Smoking an aged RyJ from the island or an aged Tatuaje from years ago is still an experience everyone should try.
 

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I'll add a bit more even as I sit here tapping on my android which may shorten this post. A lot of my formal cigar education came from my days in college in Florida as I mentioned. Ybor City was a treasure trove of info as I talked with the purveyors and owners of the cigar shops....the "regular" patrons that I'd see every week as they played cards, poker and dominoes. These older guys would tell stories about the historical events in their native countries as to cigars...the process and manufacturing..but it was the trips down to S.Miami that I appreciate the most. The old Cuban men would tell some amazing things about the history of Cuban Cigars...stories about Castro himself and his family that the history books won't tell you. They love their homeland and culture and to have heard their stories of why they left is heart wrenching...these men and their families are inspiring at the very least.

We have a passion in these days about cigars but sitting at their feet and listening to the history ....it just comes alive. Once they trusted me over a period of time they'd tell me more intimate things that really brought more passion to this hobby that I've enjoyed for nearly 50 years...a veritable lifetime. Inspiration can come from different aspects of life and it's not just a rolled up piece of tobacco...it is enjoyment and the rich history of cigars which are so important....the intangibles and the evolution of the industry over the last 100 years. Most of these men are gone now...much like the history of our WWII Veterans who had the knowledge of true events that history books could never reveal.

Next time you pull out the old cigar names...Padron, Partagas, Cohiba and MonteCristos...you're smoking and enjoying history. I'm planning a cruise to visit Cuba next year to which I want to visit landmarks of the cigar history and of course to smoke as many custom rolls and local manufacturers as well.
 

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How did y’all store you collection & regulate your Rh back then?
Humidors have been around for 100s of years and when I started in this hobby at such an early age it wasn't an issue for me to store them. The Tinder Box was close enough where I would swing by and grab about 5 cigars...( 1 per day ) and didn't worry about storage as I kept them in ....get this....tupperware. My Grandfather and a friend of the family ( Cuban gentleman who was the mayor of our city in Antioch, Ca.......his name was Pete Lopez and could have been a doppleganger for Fredo in the movie Godfather) told me that RH and proper humidification were necessary if I wanted to store them over a period of time. The Mayor would visit often and every visit he'd bring me one of his Cuban Cigars ....this was in 1967 and he warned me not to tell my folks or he'd have to stop giving me these amazing cigars. When he did visit I'd make it a point to be close enough to him so I could smell the aroma of these things...it had to be the precursor to the word...awesome!! I was hooked just with the aroma and for years he'd come by and slip me cigars from his private stash....I loved this guy!

As I got older and traveled down to Miami each month to visit my "new friends" when I was in college these guys would give me pointers in storage....how long to rest certain tobaccos...why they needed rest....and how to smoke a cigar. These days the answers are pretty available to us but back then smoking really good cigars was a rather sophisticated enjoyment and the cost for the times was a bit daunting to a college academic living on a fixed and pitiful allowance. It was these great group of men who knew my plight so when I came to visit them 3 hours away ( they would band together and give me a Care Package of Cigars....so each month I'd have nearly 50 cigars to get me by and these were very good cigars btw...no dog rockets...they gave me what they smoked and this was during the time when the Embargo was fresh ) and obtaining CC's at this time wasn't easy but they managed to slip me their contraband in my CarePackage.

I was educated by these fine men in the little peccadilloes of proper cuts...lighting...purging before it became famous. On my last year of college these guys gifted me a humidor that at the time was around $300....in 1975 that was a lot of money and when I opened it up it was full of CC's and the humidor held around 300 so this was an amazing gift to say the least for a 21 year old kid. They explained to me how they seasoned it which was basically what we do today but even then they used the passive way of seasoning which took about 3 weeks they said. When I first opened it....just the aroma of the tobacco and the cedar was enough to bring me to cigarorgasm and I was so grateful to this group of men...memories that have lasted many years with admiration.

I was fortunate to have this relationship because at that time cigar smoking was considered very snobbish and when you see an 18 year old kid smoking a Cuban Cigar at that time it invited comments from some real a-holes. These days we encourage our young proteges as to the nuances of cigar smoking and don't really look down our noses at them....that's just rude! When I see a young man at the B&M's I tend to walk over and start a conversation with them....just like the men who helped me so many years ago and even today...cigars can be intimidating in what to buy....how to store...etc.

BTW....hygrometers were on the expensive side in the mid 70's but were necessary for the serious cigar smoker and our humidor(s).
 
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I remember buying a box of Paratgas at the duty free shop in Niagara Falls on the Canadian side in the late 70's. It was an investment and I was terrified that the cigars would dry out as we were on a family trip that would go on for another week. We stopped and bought a bath towel which I lightly soaked in water and wrapped around the box which as carefully placed in the back of the conversion van. Every day I would unwrap the box and check my precious sticks to make sure they were ok. When I finally got home I showed the box to a friend the logos were almost worn off due to my handling and the box was warped from all the contact with water. He burst out laughing as the cigars were in crystal tubes and would have been fine.

The cool thing about this hobby is that you constantly learn even when the learning is embarrassing.

I fully agree with Cigary43. Take the time to talk to young people in B&M's at herfs and whenever you light up a cigar. Make them feel welcome and show them the ropes. One of the most amazing cigar experiences I can remember happened to me in the last year that really pressed this home. I was attending the Big Smoke as part of the Ventura Cigar Team last year in Las Vegas and met Michael Gianini for the first time who had just joined the Ventura team and was soon to become the GM. Michael for ths of you who don't know him was one of Ernesto Carrillo right hand guys and then when La Gloria was bought by General became the director of innovation and the force behind The Foundry. After the show we dropped into Dorsey's to have a late night and ran into a young couple that were having a drink and admiring the cigars being smoking. Michael asked the young man if he wanted to try a cigar and he said yes. Rather than just hand him a cigar he began to explain the history and origins of cigars. He walked him through how they were made wrapper, binder and filler. He showed him how to cut the cigar, warm it and light it plus how to gently smoke the cigar and savor it. The result was the young man had a wonderful experience, enjoyed the stick and will most likely look for more. What a difference. How many of us would have just handed him a stick and gone about our way. How many folks start out cutting an inch of their first cigar, torching the first half inch and then dropping them after puffing away. This man taught me that we all have to be ambassadors to our hobby, our lifestyle. Teachers. It was a great and amazing thing to watch.
 
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I'm just shy of 30 years in cigars, a nearly wet behind the ears fog compared to many other fog's. ;)

There were many less new products during my first few years enjoying the hobby, in as much as I'm aware, storage hasn't changed alot until these products. Boveda type products, digital hygrometers, cigar oasis type products for smaller scale personal use storage have been the biggest differences in my beginnings till of of late. Different sized wood humidors, analog hygrometers with foam/clay units for humidifing were standard for decades.

Occasional new cigars were most frequent changes. The amount of new cigars over the last few years, in my memory, surpass the cigar boom of the 90's and far surpass the quality of those trying to rush to market during the 90's boom. Premium cigar prices close to my beginnings were change to $7, $7 being a Davidoff Special R, $4 a Ashton Magnum and $1-2 for a Punch in the shops I'd go to.

The culture much is the same in my experience. Very welcoming stores and cigar enthusiasts. The internet just made it easier to access.
 
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