Tatuaje J21 Ligero Wrapper

[slowburn]

Brand new here... I guess besides my question this is also an introduction to the BOTL community. I have found some great info on this forum and look forward to contributing in the future.

As to my question regarding the J21... most of you would agree this is a great smoke. I immensely enjoyed the first two I purchased from my local B&M and thus is why I'm inquiring about the wrapper.

I have read on this forum and elsewhere online that the J21 has a Ligero wrapper... which I don't doubt judging by my first two sticks. I went to another B&M thou and I was surprised that their J21's did not have the very oily, slightly reddish-brown look of the first two I smoked. Rather, they had what seemed to be a corojo wrapper, which is what is advertised on Tatuaje's website... perfectly uniform and dry with no imperfections.

I'm sure both wrapper/versions are phenomenal and it doesn't really matter since Tatuaje's rule... but I'm very curious about this. I'm wondering if Tatuaje changed from the ligero to the corojo recently... can someone clarify?

Thanks

 

[dpricenator]

no idea on the wrapper, but you can use the intro forum to tell us more about yourself.

 

[RigilKent]

Im not sure the one that i had was a ligero wrapper and was amazing

 

[Angry Bill]

They have a Corojo Wrapper and are phenominal. I'm sure Pete could answer better though!

The Ligero wrapper would be too strong for the cigar though, imho!

 

[jmatkins]

I was not aware that Tat's had a Ligero wrapper. And Welcome

 

[Halon]

Corojo and Criollo are tobacco plants. Ligero is a name for a leaf found on the plants. Volado, seco, ligero, etc. refer to the specific location of the leaves on the plants. Ligero, which I think means 'light', refers to the top leaves, which get the most sunlight and are therefore the strongest.

So it could be a ligero leaf from a corojo plant (if corojo plants have ligero leaves, I kinda thought their top leaves were called coronas or something).
I believe that one of the lower leaves on the corojo plant is referred to as a centro ligero leaf. That could be the answer to your question.


TYLER

 

[dpricenator]

In my best Samuel Jackson

LOOK AT THE BIG BRAIN ON TYLER

:eyepoke:J/K Tyler, thanks for being thurough

 

[Halon]

I'm a smart mother fucker, that's right!

But really, a lot of people confuse leaves on tobacco plants with actual plants. Sometimes customers come into my shop telling me about maduro plants!!!

Just wanted to clear up any confusion, that's all!


TYLER

 

[jmatkins]

Corojo and Criollo are tobacco plants. Ligero is a name for a leaf found on the plants. Volado, seco, ligero, etc. refer to the specific location of the leaves on the plants. Ligero, which I think means 'light', refers to the top leaves, which get the most sunlight and are therefore the strongest.

So it could be a ligero leaf from a corojo plant (if corojo plants have ligero leaves, I kinda thought their top leaves were called coronas or something).
I believe that one of the lower leaves on the corojo plant is referred to as a centro ligero leaf. That could be the answer to your question.


TYLER

Thanks for the info, I need all I can get.

 

[jwintosh]

what about the maduro plant? it's my favorite of all cuban plants!!

 

[bigeasycigars]

Halon please expand on the maduro plants...I'm very interested!....J/K. We should start a thread topic "Most absurd questions asked at a Tobacconist"...I have many stories I could imput. But as they say "That's Retail". Any other tobacconists out there cringe when someone asks if you sell "cubans".... After telling them no, they then ask for a Macanudo?

 

[dpricenator]

Halon please expand on the maduro plants...I'm very interested!....J/K. We should start a thread topic "Most absurd questions asked at a Tobacconist"...I have many stories I could imput. But as they say "That's Retail". Any other tobacconists out there cringe when someone asks if you sell "cubans".... After telling them no, they then ask for a Macanudo?

:hysterica:hysterica:hysterica Of course macanudo is the benchmark by which all fine cigars are judged....right?:grin:

 

[bigeasycigars]

Indeed dpricenator "I'd like something with notes of leather and a hint of orange peel" ...Oscar Wilde fan eh? Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

 

[Mitch]

You guys are joking right! There is no Maduro Plant.

 

[jwintosh]

where do you think the maduro wrapper comes from? the tooth fairy? :smokingbo

 

[Mitch]

Basicly a toaster, if you want to get technical, why don't we ponder real tought issues like celo on or celo off?

 

[bigeasycigars]

Actually it's a maduro factory....lol

You guys are joking right! There is no Maduro Plant.

 

[bigeasycigars]

To marry or not to marry that is the answer...well part of it. Oils from the tobacco can transfer from each cigar while they are aging and the different cigars may start to take on the flavors of the nearby cigars. But I'd recommend taking it off before smoking!:fencing:

Basicly a toaster, if you want to get technical, why don't we ponder real tought issues like celo on or celo off?

 

[slowburn]

Tyler... very good info.

I would love for Pete to chime in... this is one of the best cigars I've ever had. I'd love to know more about these two very distinct wrappers I've encountered....

I will try to post pics later.. and yes, I will take the time to go onto the intro thread as well. thanks guys

 

[rabbgp]

This is one of the more entertaining threads I read in awhile!!