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This afternoon I decided to take the dogs for a walk and smoke a cigar. After digging around in the humidor for a while I finally ended up choosing this...



13th Floor is a company out of Little Havana, Miami that started up only a few years ago. The Foundation is their first (and to my knowledge only thus far) cigar to hit the market. The cigar I smoked was a Toro measuring 6 x 52, but they come in Robusto (5 x 50) and Churchill (7 x 50) sizes also. The cigar features filler from Nicaragua, binder from Ecuador and the wrapper is Ecuadorian Sumatra.

Pulling the cigar from its cellophane I am greeted with a light earthy, tobacco aroma. The wrapper is a medium brown color with some small veins. Nothing that should affect the burn that much. Seams are tight, triple cap is nicely applied, and the cigar is well packed. The band is also tastefully done and in all, this cigar has a nice presentation.





Scalping the cap with my double guillotine I am met with a tight draw. I took a little more off the top and the draw is still tight. Oh well, we'll see what happens.



I fired up the cigar with a Ronson JetLite and leashed up the dogs. Right away I can already tell that if the draw doesn't improve this will be a disappointing experience. It takes several draws to get even a decent amount of smoke output. The first inch or so was dominated by a pepper flavor, then died down to reveal a very light woody flavor with some sweet spice on the retro-hale. I cannot stress how light these flavors were, the tight draw made it almost impossible to get enough smoke to please my palate. The burn was also all over the place. Had I not been walking the dogs I would have touched up this cigar half a dozen times in the first third alone. At one point it burned such that there was an island of wrapper surrounded by a sea of ash (sorry, no pics as it has proven too awkward to operate a camera and walk my dogs). By about the half way point, the burn had worked itself out and was mostly straight. The draw had not improved and working so hard to get any smoke was taking its toll on the cigar as about every third or fourth decent puff I could get had a sour, bitter component to it. I trudged ahead with it until I got home and immediately chucked it in the ash tray with a little more than the last third left to go.

While I had planned to write a review on this cigar, I almost didn't post it after my experience. Not that I have a problem stating when I don't like a cigar, but I don't feel like this example is a fair shake for this cigar. I do feel like this could be a good cigar and one I would like. I plan to get some more and do a better review later...so for what it's worth there you have it.

Dan

My re-review of this stick can be found on the second page.
 
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Thanks for the honest review Dan, I have grown to respect your thoughts and feelings (good, bad or in-different) about cigars my friend.

Hope you get your hands on another and I look forward to a re-review of it.
 

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Sucks to hear about a bad stick though
It happens from time to time, just sucks when it's the only one you have. This is why I try to be really careful with my LE stuff as I usually only have one, maybe two, of them and if something like this were to happen it'd really ruin my day.

Dan
 

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While I had planned to write a review on this cigar, I almost didn't post it after my experience. Not that I have a problem stating when I don't like a cigar, but I don't feel like this example is a fair shake for this cigar.
This was very fair of you, I've don't think I would be so forgiving, lol. I know this wasn't a full review, but I still enjoyed reading it as always Dan, thanks for sharing.
 

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Sounds like you should have posted pics of your dogs instead!

Seriously though...I still have not tried the ones I got way back when the founder of Thirteenth floor was here on BOTL.

He seemed very passionate, and took time and patience to answer many questions about the blend, the brand, et al.

I love the band...Very distinct and ornate.

I'll need to fire one up, now :)
 

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Seriously though...I still have not tried the ones I got way back when the founder of Thirteenth floor was here on BOTL.

He seemed very passionate, and took time and patience to answer many questions about the blend, the brand, et al.

I love the band...Very distinct and ornate.

I'll need to fire one up, now :)
From what I gather on their website and what he's posted here, they seem to be passionate about what they do. They definitely haven't been churning out cigar after cigar. I'd be interested to hear your take Clint...and thanks for sending this to me. I was literally about to drop you a PM when I saw that you had posted :laugh:.

Dan
 
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Dan, I must say, you do some of the nicest cuts I've seen.

I know that's a weird compliment, but hey, you gotta acknowledge talent where talent lies, right?
 

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Bryan, from 13th Floor, contacted me after reading this review and offered to send me some cigars to retry. They arrived today and I'll give 'em some time to acclimate, but am looking forward to giving these another go...stay tuned.



Dan
 
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That's a helluva stand-up guy, right there! Those kind of actions make people want to try out their product, knowing how attentative he is to his customers!
 

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Well I for one like reviews that don't shine a spotlight on all cigars. This helps add a profile that someone else might object.
Thanks for the review Dan and great pics too...even if you were walking dogs!
 

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Yesterday was an incredible day and one could hardly pass the opportunity to enjoy it with a cigar. I've been sitting on these 13th Floor Foundation Toros for long enough so I grabbed one from the humidor and headed for the deck. This cigar, unlike the last one I smoked, had a springy give to it. Not under filled, but springy. Great aroma, slightly sweet tobacco.





Cap clipped easily enough and this time the draw was just great :thumbsup:.



Setting fire to it I'm greeted with a pleasant array of flavors starting with graham cracker, progressing to a slightly peppery wood with some sweet hay on the retro, and a nuttiness on the finish.





As you can see the burn was great. The ash was a little unstable looking, but held strong for the most part. Flavors remained consistent until the second third when the pepper dropped off and the graham cracker disappeared. This left a mainly woody profile with some sweet grassy notes on the retro and a nuttiness on the finish.





Last third was a continuation of the second, except that the cigar got a slight bit stronger and a few off flavors popped up occasionally. Overall not bad. I definitely enjoyed it, but did find myself a little bored during the second third and even in the last third. I kept wishing the pepper or some spice would crop up. Would I smoke it again? Yeah, I have have one more I'll give a spark to later on and I'll probably pick up a 5er at some point to have in the humidor.

Dan
 
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Dan, I really appreciated the opportunity to send you a couple more sticks for a second review. As a manufacturer, that's all we can hope for, especially when a first experience doesn't exactly go the right way.

We appreciate your support and the support and interest from the rest of the guys on this site. Hope you guys have a good weekend and have some awesome smokes lined up.

Thanks Again,
Bryan
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I have been digging the robusto lately. Picked up a box awhile back. I get a lot of the sweet hay which I enjoy, quality of manufacture hasn't been a problem with the half of a box I have been through.
 
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