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I have a question that has been plaguing my mind for some time now, I indulge in smoking cigarettes as well as cigars, and was wondering whether smoking cigarettes was not allowing me to enjoy the full experience of smoking cigars. I read many of the reviews and hear all of my friends(many of whom solely smoke cigars), and don't believe my palette is able to taste the many nuances of a good cigar. For example pepper taste, spices, a cigar going from medium to full body etc. I know what I like and always enjoy a good smoke but I would like to have the full experience, thats all.
 
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The only way to get that is to refine yer palate. It takes time, and ye've only been into this a little while. Although I do suggest ye leave those cigarettes alone. They taste of shite.
 

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Many will say that you will have decreased capacity to taste anything, not just cigars. I am a cigarette smoker as well, but I have never noticed any difference. For about a year and a half, I quit smoking cigarettes, and only smoked 1 to 2 cigars a month. I never noticed any change in flavor. I never experienced the "oh my god! I can taste again!" like many others claim they have. In all honesty, I think it depends on the indivdual more than most people will admit or understand. Maybe you'll detect more nuance if you quit msoking cigarettes, maybe you won't. Might be worth a try though.

And really, as long as you're enjoying what you're doing, who cares if you can pick up on every little nuance?
 

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I know several guys who enjoy cigars, but smoke cigarettes. So I think it comes down to what you want to do. Cigarrettes are bad for you though.
 
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I learned from Wine tasting, that you can train your palette to taste every bit as well as a non-smoker. While in the tasting room at Phelps Winery, they mentioned a study done by Wrigley chewing gum co. comparing smokers and non-smokers and there was virtually no difference between the two. After saying that, I don't have any actual experience, as when I was smoking cigarettes, I wasn't really into "tasting" anything.
 

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I know when I quit smoking cigarettes over five years ago I could taste a lot more. It took about a month & a half but it was definitely noticeable with food. I can't comment on cigars because I really wasn't big into them at the time.
 
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I was just writing a piece for the "Renewing Your Palate," a part of which dovetails with this thread. All humans are equipped with a shutdown olfactory response to the internal introduction of any type of burn-produced smoke (yes, even cigars.) The nerve endings of the nose, mouth and throat are literally paralyzed by smoke, in proportion to the intensity and duration to exposure. As "d day" stated above, the degree to which people can lose or regain their optimum ability to smell, and thereby taste, depends upon the individual. For a person who smokes a pack a day, the paralyzing effects of the compounds found in cigarettes leave little opportunity for "olfactory reset," since it takes about an hour and a half to regain optimum sensation along these nerve endings, even after only about ten minute's exposure. Olfactory recuperation also varies as to how many years an individual has been smoking (the amount of permanent damage - as the nerves can eventually be totally destroyed) and the type of material smoked.

I have also noticed that cigarette smokers I invite to smoke a cigar with me tend to occasionally inhale the smoke (perhaps out of habitual reflex to the draw, as learned from cigarette smoking.) Cigar inhalation is a sure impedance of the aromatic benefit from a good stogie. I recommend anyone who wants to get the best experience of a premium cigar to abstain from smoking anything for at least 3 months; and that next cigar can then be a quarter-anniversary reward. It will make a world of difference!
 

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Nice info Rex. I quit cigarettes for about a year and definitely was more sensitive to tastes with food. My GF is trying to quit smoking using the nicotine patch and I imagine I will be stopping here soon too. I have been cutting back a bit and only taking a designated amount with me to work(3 or 4 as opposed to an entire pack). On nights that I have a cigar I won't smoke any cigarettes afterwards. I think cold turkey would be hard for me so I am cutting back slowly. I usually smoked about 12-14 a day and have been smoking around 5 a day for the last week. My goal is to reduce it down to nothing over the next few weeks.
 

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I think CuritibaRex is right. It's all about not inhaling the smoke to experience the taste. Because the taste is in your mouth so you have to hold the smoke in your mouth to get the taste. For me, it takes about 1/2 inch to get the cigar burning properly and about an inch of holding smoke in my mouth to totaly experience the taste. I think this also is where the term body comes from, because a "full bodied" cigar will leave a coating in your mouth. You will probably find if you do this you will taste more and if you do that with a cigarette, you will find that Moro is right, they taste like shite. They are perfect for delivering nicotine especially when you inhale. Then there is the issue of palate...
 
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i'm on day 5 with no cigarettes. longest i've gone in 2 years. i'm using the swedish snus method. so far so good. have been fighting urges to buy packs daily though.
 

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I totally agree.

The only way to get that is to refine yer palate. It takes time, and ye've only been into this a little while. Although I do suggest ye leave those cigarettes alone. They taste of shite.
I wish you luck.


i'm on day 5 with no cigarettes. longest i've gone in 2 years. i'm using the swedish snus method. so far so good. have been fighting urges to buy packs daily though.
 
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The only way to get that is to refine yer palate. It takes time, and ye've only been into this a little while. Although I do suggest ye leave those cigarettes alone. They taste of shite.
I agree, it takes a bit to refine your palate. Also cigarettes do taste like shite!!!!
 
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I suggest a little experiment. Take a large cigar...and 95% nose exhale. Take a tissue afterwards and clean the inside of your nostrils. You will see very little tar. Then smoke just 2 cigarettes and do the same thing. Its nasty what you will see. That's what is coating your tongue, nose and lungs when you smoke cigarettes. This affects every aspect of enjoying a cigar. I know it's a tough habit to break but cut out the cigarettes...not only for your palate but for your health. :)
 
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I've been an on and off cigarette smoker for 20 years (currently off) and I used to start cocktail hour on the weekends with a good cigar and then move onto cigarettes after that. All I know now is that I enjoy cigars more now than when I followed it up with cigarettes! I can also enjoy a good cigar with a root beer if I want.

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I suggest a little experiment. Take a large cigar...and 95% nose exhale. Take a tissue afterwards and clean the inside of your nostrils. You will see very little tar. Then smoke just 2 cigarettes and do the same thing. Its nasty what you will see. That's what is coating your tongue, nose and lungs when you smoke cigarettes. This affects every aspect of enjoying a cigar. I know it's a tough habit to break but cut out the cigarettes...not only for your palate but for your health. :)
If i nose exhaled 95% of the time, i think i would die!
 
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