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Buena Vista Reserva Robustos

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I was fortunate enough to receive a sampler pack from Gary Heathcott.
I'm sure everyone has seen all the postings on this forum about the Buena Vista Tobacco Factory, so I won't bore you all with that, again.

Tonight, I decided to try my very first Buena Vista offering. It is from the Reserva line, the Robustos, 5 3/8 x 54. This is a 100% Ecuadorian cigar, produced in their Cancún factory.

(sorry, no pictures tonight. I couldn't get the camera to take any decent ones, with the lack of light)

Construction:
This cigar was very nice looking with a silky medium brown wrapper, displaying a couple prominent veins. The cigar held a firm roll, but has some very prominent ridge from foot to cap, underneath the wrapper. I'm really not sure what it was.

Prelight:
Light tobacco notes from the wrapper, with a bit of sweeter tobacco on the foot. I had a hard time placing the cold draw flavor… almost a faint graham cracker?

Draw:
Easy draw after clipping with my Xikar Xi carbon fiber cutter.

Burn:
This cigar had a pretty wavy burn. Huge amounts of smoke rolled off the cigar sitting, even.

First third:
A light spice on the front of the tongue from the start, and the smoke had the immediate aroma of almost nutmeg. The flavors were really hard to nail down. The best I can describe is a sweet tobacco flavor. As I got further into this stick, I was picking up a bit of a harsh bitterness, with a very dry finish. The body of the smoke was very light, with no mouth coating. I hoped the bitterness would clear up by the middle third.

Middle Third:
This cigar still a lingering harshness, with basic tobacco flavors. There was nothing real impressive or complex to this portion of the cigar.

Last Third:
The last third of this cigar sealed the deal on this particular stick. The same bitterness just became more and more harsh. I decided, reluctantly, to put this cigar down.

Conclusion:
I’m not sure if I was getting a young, ammonia taste from this cigar, or what the problem really was. The Reserva line boasts a 3 year aging, so I would hope not. This is the first one I've smoked, and hope the other two samples (in other sizes) fare much better. For the price point I have been seeing from this brand, I can’t imagine ever purchasing any. I do, however, want to the the other two samples sit a bit longer, and see if they are better. But I have to say I was not pleased with this Robustos size, and really was not good.
 
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Has anyone smoked one of the Buena Vista cigars and had a bad experience like I did? Everyone who has posted any reviews has had a great experience out of them. Just curious if anyone else had anything similar to what I experienced.
 
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Yeah, a buddy of mine said it was literally unsmokeable ROTT. I smoked mine after a week of rest and it was the BOMB! Really great smoke IMHO. Could be one of the best of the year for me.
 

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Hey Frank, not sure what happened with your experience, but remind me of your mailing address, and I'm gonna send you 3 or 4 of the Sublimes for you to try. No way you should have had the experience you detailed in your review.
 
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Very generous, stand up offer, Gary...

I do have two more of different sizes that you sent, though. So, I appreciate it, but I do have more, already to try, yet. Thank you, Gary.
 

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That's one of the things I love about this site. Fare and honest reviews are what you get here compared to blogers who tend to be bias.
Thanks Frank for the good honest review...hopefully the next ones won't be as bad.
 
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The one I've smoked was a fantastic cigar very well balanced. I'm waiting to smoke one more before posting a review. Once I have the time to do the whole camara thingy and notes on flavor profile and what not.
Most times when I get the time to set and take my time with a smoke the alcohol gets involed......and the review goes out the window.
 

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These are VERY balanced cigars, with a definite cuban-esqe quality to them...Excellent construction as well...

I have smoked 3 of them so far (different vitolas) and mine do have just a tiny amount of something in the background that I can't place, so I am letting mine site for a week or so before doing a formal review...

I have been very impressed with them so far...

~brooks
 
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As I noted in my first review of the Robusto vitola that there was some bittersweet to the first 2/3rds of the stick. Although I did not find it displeasing and added to the other flavors I was picking up.

My review of the same stick is here.
 

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That's one of the things I love about this site. Fare and honest reviews are what you get here compared to blogers who tend to be bias.
Thanks Frank for the good honest review...hopefully the next ones won't be as bad.
:thumbsup:

Ive smoked 2 Buena Vistas so far and have had 2 somewhat different experiences but 1 was ROTT so 99% chance that would be the reason. I have one more that Im going to smoke before doing a final review as well although I dont really feel that I am qualified to be doing reviews.
 
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Thanks, ciggy!

Well, I'm not professional reviewer, nor run a blog for reviewing cigars, so I don't have any protocol where I smoke more than one of cigar, or any mundane number, before posting a review. I often post reviews based on just one experience with a cigar. That's how most average Joes, like myself, experience cigars. If they get a cigar that was totally unimpressive, they won't care much for trying any more of the line. Also as I said, though, I do have a couple more that I will give a try to, and write reviews for, since I wrote this one.

From what I've heard, I am not the only one that has had issues with this line, so I don't think I'm just plain wrong. Again, I plan on smoking more of these before passing judgement.

Thanks for reading...
 

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That's how most average Joes, like myself, experience cigars. If they get a cigar that was totally unimpressive, they won't care much for trying any more of the line.
^^ Totally agree with the statement above.
If I have a bad cigar on the first try it is very rare that I will go back for a 2nd or 3rd unless I already have them resting in my humi.

Unfortunately I think some of the smaller mfg's of cigars have to 'rush' their product out the door.

Either they dont have the space to let them properly settle before shipping or they just dont have the time and or funds to procure that space or wait that long for the revenue to start generating.
 

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Thanks, ciggy!

Well, I'm not professional reviewer, nor run a blog for reviewing cigars, so I don't have any protocol where I smoke more than one of cigar, or any mundane number, before posting a review. I often post reviews based on just one experience with a cigar. That's how most average Joes, like myself, experience cigars. If they get a cigar that was totally unimpressive, they won't care much for trying any more of the line. Also as I said, though, I do have a couple more that I will give a try to, and write reviews for, since I wrote this one.

From what I've heard, I am not the only one that has had issues with this line, so I don't think I'm just plain wrong. Again, I plan on smoking more of these before passing judgement.

Thanks for reading...
A while back someone posted a thread on cigars you think are really overhyped or don't like. By the time it stopped almost every major roller and stick was named. Same thing happened with the thread about CC's you don't like. No one is right and no one is wrong. The concept of reviews to me has always been to find someone that has a similar taste to you and follow their leads. If we did not smoke any cigars with a neg review we would all have empty humi's. Smoke what you like.
 
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That's one of the things I love about this site. Fare and honest reviews are what you get here compared to blogers who tend to be bias.
Thanks Frank for the good honest review...hopefully the next ones won't be as bad.
I am a cigar blogger and I don't understand how we are biased. I have no stake in any cigar I have reviewed in the past and could care less what the manufacturers think of my review. If your cigar stinks, I will say it. Just because a manufacturer sends you samples doesn't mean that you owe them anything. They take their chances sending cigars to reviewers. Any person posting a review is no better than a blogger doing the same, except the fact it is being posted on forum instead of a website. Cigar smokers need to do what wine drinkers do, that is read reviews from people who have similar tastes to learn about product so that they have a realistic outlook on products that they are looking to buy. It is a guideline and not the end-all of decision making.
 
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A while back someone posted a thread on cigars you think are really overhyped or don't like. By the time it stopped almost every major roller and stick was named. Same thing happened with the thread about CC's you don't like. No one is right and no one is wrong. The concept of reviews to me has always been to find someone that has a similar taste to you and follow their leads. If we did not smoke any cigars with a neg review we would all have empty humi's. Smoke what you like.
This right here= truth.

I know, I've read some cigar reviews and thought "wow! I gotta try that!" And then hated the stick. I've also had smokes that I absolutely loved, and when I checked out reviews on them, people said they were awful. Its not what works and what doesn't for the reveiwer, its about what works for you.
 
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