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I picked a couple up today at Sir Elliott Tobacco in the Frisco area. Limit 2 per customer. Go get em' guys!
 
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Surely its not, now I know I'm from NYC. However driving from McKinney through Dallas is about a 35 minute travel via 75.

Anywho, for some it would be worth the adventure I suppose.
 

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McKinney to the edge of Dallas is 35 minutes on 75 (assuming no traffic) but Frisco is off the highway quite a ways (10-15 minutes west of 75) and then you've got to drive around in Dallas (I'm 10-15 minutes east off 75).

Frisco is to Dallas as the Hudson Valley is to NYC :sarcastic

But yes, it would be a fun adventure, and Opus would be an awesome prize to seek out!
 
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You'll have to excuse me for my lack of knowledge in the surrounding area. Ahah, where I'm from we even call parts of NJ, NY. I'm still not sure why...

I think they have two locations (Sir Elliott). One might be closer than Frisco, and might have some Opus.:bdaycake:
 

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You'll have to excuse me for my lack of knowledge in the surrounding area. Ahah, where I'm from we even call parts of NJ, NY. I'm still not sure why...
It's actually very, very simple. Here's the breakdown:

If you live in the city of Dallas, you *ONLY* refer to the City of Dallas itself as "Dallas" and everything else (the dozen-plus surrounding cities) you call "The Suburbs" or you identify them by their specific municipality -- "Lewisville", "Garland", "Frisco", "Addison", etc. -- and you expect that the person you're talking to knows exactly where those places are. If they don't know (for example, "Corinth? Where's that?") you reply by identifying the nearest major municipality (eg, "It's just north of Lewisville, over the bridge") as you give them a quizzical look for not knowing where it is in the first place. In addition, you only call the city of Fort Worth "Fort Worth" and everything else surrounding it is once again "The Suburbs" or named individually -- "Arlington", "North Richland Hills", "Keller", "Grapevine", etc. On top of all that, the cities in-between are collectively called the "Mid Cities" or "H-E-B" for "Hurst, Euless, Bedford" and the surrounding areas. Then, to add even more confusion to the matter, there are two independent municipalities located within the borders of the City of Dallas; "Highland Park" and "University Park", which collectively is referred to as "The Park Cities" but are never referred to as part of "Dallas" itself. Then, to add insult to injury, any Dallasite worth their salt will refer to their Greater Neighborhood Area as a further descriptive marker (eg, "Lakewood", "Lake Highlands", "M-Streets", "Uptown", "Downtown", "Prestonwood", etc), and confusing neighborhoods is a social fau paux, even though there are usually no formal neighborhood boundaries. Also, if you live in any of the neighborhoods in the southern sector ("Oak Cliff", "Plesant Grove", "The Cedars", "Expo Park", etc) you use both your neighborhood and the collective "South Dallas" collective name, as a matter of civic pride, of course. You will find that many Dallas neighborhood names stem from their former municipal name before they were annexed into the City of Dallas, and people in those areas hold on to their local area names for dear life. Finally, anyone from Dallas calls the entire area the "DFW Metroplex", which was a term coined by a professor at TCU.

In contrast, if you live in a suburb, you call everything on the east and north sides of the Metroplex "Dallas" and everything on the west side "Fort Worth" :rofl:
 

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It's actually very, very simple. Here's the breakdown:

If you live in the city of Dallas, you *ONLY* refer to the City of Dallas itself as "Dallas" and everything else (the dozen-plus surrounding cities) you call "The Suburbs" or you identify them by their specific municipality -- "Lewisville", "Garland", "Frisco", "Addison", etc. -- and you expect that the person you're talking to knows exactly where those places are. If they don't know (for example, "Corinth? Where's that?") you reply by identifying the nearest major municipality (eg, "It's just north of Lewisville, over the bridge") as you give them a quizzical look for not knowing where it is in the first place. In addition, you only call the city of Fort Worth "Fort Worth" and everything else surrounding it is once again "The Suburbs" or named individually -- "Arlington", "North Richland Hills", "Keller", "Grapevine", etc. On top of all that, the cities in-between are collectively called the "Mid Cities" or "H-E-B" for "Hurst, Euless, Bedford" and the surrounding areas. Then, to add even more confusion to the matter, there are two independent municipalities located within the borders of the City of Dallas; "Highland Park" and "University Park", which collectively is referred to as "The Park Cities" but are never referred to as part of "Dallas" itself. Then, to add insult to injury, any Dallasite worth their salt will refer to their Greater Neighborhood Area as a further descriptive marker (eg, "Lakewood", "Lake Highlands", "M-Streets", "Uptown", "Downtown", "Prestonwood", etc), and confusing neighborhoods is a social fau paux, even though there are usually no formal neighborhood boundaries. Also, if you live in any of the neighborhoods in the southern sector ("Oak Cliff", "Plesant Grove", "The Cedars", "Expo Park", etc) you use both your neighborhood and the collective "South Dallas" collective name, as a matter of civic pride, of course. You will find that many Dallas neighborhood names stem from their former municipal name before they were annexed into the City of Dallas, and people in those areas hold on to their local area names for dear life. Finally, anyone from Dallas calls the entire area the "DFW Metroplex", which was a term coined by a professor at TCU.

In contrast, if you live in a suburb, you call everything on the east and north sides of the Metroplex "Dallas" and everything on the west side "Fort Worth" :rofl:
Long story short. he is wrong? I could have saved you a LOT of time! ;-)
 

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It's not about the time, it's about the funny.

And no, he's not wrong at all. He lives in the suburbs, therefore it's perfectly normal and acceptable for him to refer to the area as "Dallas".

Didn't you read my post? LOL! :halfgrinw
 

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ES, Don't forget to add that the 'burbs that are, as mentioned, 35 miles away and even in a different county, are still referred to as N. Dallas.
 

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ES, Don't forget to add that the 'burbs that are, as mentioned, 35 miles away and even in a different county, are still referred to as N. Dallas.
Uhm....only people from the Suburbs call those northern cities "North Dallas". :rofl:

Anyone from Dallas itself knows that "North Dallas" is the actual northern part of the city's boundaries. Roughly, it's the area due north of the Park Cities, between Love Field to the west and White Rock Lake to the east, and extending north to 635, but traversing even farther north up the Dallas North Tollway to the George Bush Turnpike.

Map from Wikipedia:
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Dallas[/ame]

 

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Here's another brain bender - the areas mentioned by ES (Dallas, Tarrant & Collin counties) are about the same size as a couple of states up north! (2,632.16 square miles)
 

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Uhm....only people from the Suburbs call those northern cities "North Dallas". :rofl:

Anyone from Dallas itself knows that "North Dallas" is the actual northern part of the city's boundaries. Roughly, it's the area due north of the Park Cities, between Love Field to the west and White Rock Lake to the east, and extending north to 635, but traversing even farther north up the Dallas North Tollway to the George Bush Turnpike.

Map from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Dallas

Anymore, North Dallas seems to stretch all the way to Oklahoma!
 

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Anymore, North Dallas seems to stretch all the way to Oklahoma!
Only if you live in the suburbs--those stretch to OK, but North Dallas stops at the Bush. :grin:

That was who I was referring to.:thumbsup:
Yes, I know...and I was trying to say that you *ARE* one of those Suburbanites who calls it all "North Dallas".

:grinFU:
 

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And yet my "suburb" is larger than most major cities in this country.

I do generally refer to those little piss holes by there name (Frisco, Plano, etc.)
 

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It's actually very, very simple. Here's the breakdown:

If you live in the city of Dallas, you *ONLY* refer to the City of Dallas itself as "Dallas" and everything else (the dozen-plus surrounding cities) you call "The Suburbs" or you identify them by their specific municipality -- "Lewisville", "Garland", "Frisco", "Addison", etc. -- and you expect that the person you're talking to knows exactly where those places are. If they don't know (for example, "Corinth? Where's that?") you reply by identifying the nearest major municipality (eg, "It's just north of Lewisville, over the bridge") as you give them a quizzical look for not knowing where it is in the first place. In addition, you only call the city of Fort Worth "Fort Worth" and everything else surrounding it is once again "The Suburbs" or named individually -- "Arlington", "North Richland Hills", "Keller", "Grapevine", etc. On top of all that, the cities in-between are collectively called the "Mid Cities" or "H-E-B" for "Hurst, Euless, Bedford" and the surrounding areas. Then, to add even more confusion to the matter, there are two independent municipalities located within the borders of the City of Dallas; "Highland Park" and "University Park", which collectively is referred to as "The Park Cities" but are never referred to as part of "Dallas" itself. Then, to add insult to injury, any Dallasite worth their salt will refer to their Greater Neighborhood Area as a further descriptive marker (eg, "Lakewood", "Lake Highlands", "M-Streets", "Uptown", "Downtown", "Prestonwood", etc), and confusing neighborhoods is a social fau paux, even though there are usually no formal neighborhood boundaries. Also, if you live in any of the neighborhoods in the southern sector ("Oak Cliff", "Plesant Grove", "The Cedars", "Expo Park", etc) you use both your neighborhood and the collective "South Dallas" collective name, as a matter of civic pride, of course. You will find that many Dallas neighborhood names stem from their former municipal name before they were annexed into the City of Dallas, and people in those areas hold on to their local area names for dear life. Finally, anyone from Dallas calls the entire area the "DFW Metroplex", which was a term coined by a professor at TCU.

In contrast, if you live in a suburb, you call everything on the east and north sides of the Metroplex "Dallas" and everything on the west side "Fort Worth" :rofl:
Yall have no idea how true this really is...

Good call!

~brooks
 

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You know how little I care about Dallas proper... I didn't know any of this. I'm perfectly fine staying on my side of Loop 12, unless we're going to a shop out there. Heck, I don't even care about Cock and Bull anymore. Ya'll can have your little gay pride neighborhood events and social poo-poos. I'll just live my life.:ccowboy: Plenty to do out here!!!

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