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Pipe tiers/price points - benefits of an increased budget?

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So now that I have a good list of tobaccos to try and become familiar with, the next thing is for me to pick up a few pipes. Instead of just asking “What pipe should I buy?”, which I understand is a frustrating question I am going try and go about things a little differently.

Seeing that there are pipes everywhere from like the $15=20 range up to pipes that cost a couple of thousand bucks (or more), I’m more interested in what are the quality difference that I can expect with each “tier” if that makes sense.

For example, with MM seeming to be the entry point, the next step up would seem to be something like a Morgan Bones? The step up there is moving to briar, and I’m guessing an increase in build quality because of the better materials?


From the Bones to a Savinelli at about $150 more or less – what are the differences in quality that I can expect by moving to that tier? I know that there are different finishes and such, but I am more interested in the quality – is is a better grade of briar, better fit and finish, etc? And then the question becomes is 3 Bones a better buy vs one Savinelli, or does that quality make the single purchase better? I’d much rather spend more if the quality warrants it and take more time to build my collection. Are there other brands that you would put on an equivalent tier?


If the next tier is in the $250-300 range, what are the benefits of spending the money to upgrade from Savinelli? Once again, are there build and material quality differences, or is this a point where the extra money starts to be for cosmetics and things that do not impact the quality of the pipe?


And then there are pipes like Dunhill… what do I get when I move up to say $600?


Do you see where I am going with my questions? I’m trying to learn more about the brands and price points, and at what point the price increases are not as much about the quality and become about finishes and cosmetics. I want to start buying at the point where I am maximizing quality and not the cosmetics. I’m not all that picky at this point about what a pipe looks like as much as I am about wanting the best quality that I can budget for. If it means buying one pipe now and waiting a bit for the next one, that is what I’d much rather do.

My favorite shapes seem to be Pokers, Authors, and Bulldogs, so that is where I will likely forcus to begin with.

I’m hoping that this is at least a little different and slightly less annoying than that “What pipe should I buy?” questions that I’m sure you get a lot of. It is like the “What cigar should I get?” or “What fountain pen should I buy?” questions that I get at times.


Thanks as always for your input/advice/opinions!
 
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In my opinion.....start less expensive- some folks say they don't care , but I'd rather not have the rim of my pipe nicked up, burnt up and the stem chewed up. Those are things that can be avoided. It's just better to mess up a cheap pipe right out the gate during your learning curve.
If taken care of a pipe will literally last a lifetime.
Certainly consider estate/used pipes.


That being said....Radice are a really good brand Italian pipe make that is not too pricy. They seem to satisfy many long time pipe smokers w/an all-around quality product. I haven't read a lot of complaints about them.
 
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Years ago a brother here sent me some awesome and pricey pipes. I ended up using corn cob pipes and cheap pipes most often. I found that there was a decent difference how hot they got. But I didn't notice a huge difference in flavor once I got the hang of things.

I would start lower tier to get the hang of things and if you really want to get something expensive later, go for it. Having a nice piece of art in your hands can sometimes enhance the experience.
 
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Pipe smoking is rather different than smoking a cigar. I'd suggest starting slow with a decent cob and see if you enjoy the experience. If at that point you decide it's something that you want to pursue then start with the decent house made briars like Savinelli, Radice, or Castello.
The benefits of more expensive pipe are the smoking qualities and how comfortable the stem feels in the mouth. Better briar will smoke cooler and are less likely to have burnouts. You will get better drilling thus having less or no gurgling issues. Stems are much more comfortable on an artisan pipe and really do make a difference in the overall enjoyability of a pipe.
Most artisan pipes will also retain a significant part of their value if treated properly.
 
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Honestly I agree with a lot of what the other fellas said. In my opinion it’s like just about anything else where once you hit a certain price point there’s not a whole lot of substantial difference outside of the design (at least for the average person). With the higher priced pipes you get into the higher quality briar and materials in general and the QC on those pieces is normally top notch.

For me that price point is in the Savinelli range ($100-250ish). At that range you’re still getting pretty good quality materials and good QC on the product as well as a wide range of shapes and finishes. I have a few artisan pipes that are on the pricey side (at least for my budget lol) and really the only difference between them and my Savinellis is that 1. I was able to have a hand in designing them and 2. The stems are a bit more comfortable which is nice because I have sensitive teeth. I’ve also had a decent experience with Rossi which is a Savinelli sister company. I have an author from them which was my first nicer briar and they can be had for close to half the price of a Sav. I’m not sure what their overall QC is like but I haven’t heard really any complaints about them.

I’ve always loved pipes because they are accessible at a great price point. You can enjoy this hobby with a $50 budget just as much as the guy with a $5,000 budget. I feel like my cobs are left abandoned a good bit of the time but I still enjoy smoking them just as much as an artisan briar. At the end of the day It’s only as expensive as you let it be.


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Something to consider. A lot of folks with high end pipes still occasionally smoke corn cob pipes. I tend to prefer a cob My most expensive pipe is a savinelli. It’s my favorite but more often than not I’ll grab one of my corn cob pipes that I can bang out on the ashtray and not have to care much. I think the cobs take a little longer to get broken in.

they also have better stems you can grab for those MM cob pipes which I’d recommend.

Long story longer corn cob pipes smoke well and they’re durable
 
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Something to consider. A lot of folks with high end pipes still occasionally smoke corn cob pipes. I tend to prefer a cob My most expensive pipe is a savinelli. It’s my favorite but more often than not I’ll grab one of my corn cob pipes that I can bang out on the ashtray and not have to care much. I think the cobs take a little longer to get broken in.

they also have better stems you can grab for those MM cob pipes which I’d recommend.

Long story longer corn cob pipes smoke well and they’re durable

A few good corn cob pipes are definitely a must in any collection.
 
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A few good corn cob pipes are definitely a must in any collection.
I’m definitely going to to pick up at least a couple more cons and a couple more Bones as well. Of course I know Morgan runs specials every so often so I’m the guy who’s waiting to snipe a deal on a $49 pipe lololol!!!


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