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I smoked a Bolivar Coronas Extra from mar '01 tonight and it was spectacular. It didn't have as much of the usual typical bolivar earthiness, but it did have more than usual citrus flavor. I am glad that I still have most of the box to go! I recently introduced myself on the introductions part of the forum and I had a question for someone experienced in aging SLR serie A's. How long can the cabs of 50 be aged before they start to lose the sweet woody flavors that make them so great? I have a cab from 03 and am thinking about buying another one for long term storage.
 

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I'm no expert on any cigar, let alone the SLR's. I think that if you keep them in the cab and keep the enviorment stable, you should be able to age these for 15-20 years w/o any problems.

I've smoked a 47 year old Monte #4 that had more flavor than any recent production cigar. It all depends on how you take care of it.

I hope that helps...
 

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Hypothetically, it should stay cedary because it's in a cedar cab, IIRC. But, it really depends on how long you'd want to age them. I'd test them at 10 years and then each year afterwards.
 
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I appreciate everyone's help. I was just concern that the cigars would start to lose their flavor with age as opposed to gain flavor given that saint luis rey cigars are more on the medium bodied side.
 

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Don't worry about them losing flavor at all. Unless your storage is very high in humidity & temperature (70 or higher for rh & temp) My guess is you won't have the patience to lay off of them before the storage would start to negatively effect em.

Things to make sure of... Don't store any "flavored" cigars in the same humidor.
Don't open the box on a regular basis (ideally never but if checking for beetles, as sporatically as possible)
Dont' break the bundle. supposedly 49 instead of 50 has a negative effect. Don't knwo 1st hand knowledge on this one myself, sorry.
If you're sincerely concerned, wrap your box with plastic wrap or keep them in "food storage" quality zipper bags. This will slow the aging process down & ensure a smoke that will last for much longer if the conditions above are followed.

Something to remember, if you break the box, have bad storage open it daily & don't keep em in a bag, I would still think you have at least 5 years before they're completely gone.

PS - Mild or medium doesn't mean a cigar won't age. When you're thinking of rules for Cuban cigars more often than not you need to forget the lies you learned when you smoked N/C's. Cigar Aficionado does more for propaganda than Jane Fonda ever did!
 

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Unless you have a big cabinet humidor, or a seperate coolidor that you know you won't dig into, I think it would be hard to resist smoking a cab or box you want to set aside for aging. I don't have the will power to properly age cigars YET. I plan on doing it in the next couple of years though...
 

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Ratbert said:
Interesting...so if I have a box that I know I'm not going to smoke within 5 years of the box date, you'd suggest placing it in a zip-lock bag? I'm assuming no humi device in the bag, so whatever moisture level the box is at would be more or less "locked-in", right?
Ziplock bags still breathe though. You want your cigars at the preferred humidity and then put them in the ziplock bag. But make sure to keep them in the humidor.
 
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A seperate type cabinet humidor would be ideal with a lower RH and Temp with vitually no air exchange. store unopened boxes in zip locks. i just started putting boxes away for the long term. But if your talking under 10 years don't worry about it.
 
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Great questions. I can not give you an answer from experience...only from research. I just obtained a humi big enough to start aging boxes for 20, 30, 40 years down the road. SLR's of any sort are a top 3 of mine. It's my understanding, that if you slow down the aging process and take care of of your cigars that you will be a very happy man come 2026+. From my understanding, it's possible to better the flavor of most cuban cigars 50 years+ under the right conditions. For the long term, I would grab cabinets instead of dressed boxes. The reasons for better aging are unknown but are highly debated. I personally think SLR A's would be unreal 20 years+ but hey I have never smoked a cigar that old.
 
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FPDoc77 said:
Great questions. I can not give you an answer from experience...only from research. I just obtained a humi big enough to start aging boxes for 20, 30, 40 years down the road. SLR's of any sort are a top 3 of mine. It's my understanding, that if you slow down the aging process and take care of of your cigars that you will be a very happy man come 2026+. From my understanding, it's possible to better the flavor of most cuban cigars 50 years+ under the right conditions. For the long term, I would grab cabinets instead of dressed boxes. The reasons for better aging are unknown but are highly debated. I personally think SLR A's would be unreal 20 years+ but hey I have never smoked a cigar that old.

Thanks for everyone's help.. I really need to get a larger humidor to put some cigars aside to age. My cabinet is already full!
 
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UFGators said:
Thanks for everyone's help.. I really need to get a larger humidor to put some cigars aside to age. My cabinet is already full!
Are you sure you want to go there? I just weeped when I seen my bill for my humidor. I think I was probably legally insane when I bought it. I'm just blessed enough to have a woman who didn't bust my chops when she seen the bill. This is an awesome hobby but definately not a cheap one. :help:
 
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