Well put Cmac. I look fwd to meeting folks tomorrow and just chillin and havin a good time relaxin with a smoke and a drink. I joined to learn more about smokes which I have. I remember reading the new member packet and seeing something like 'don't expect to get free cigars' and I had no idea what that was about. I've had fun that I never expected to have and met good people and even had them over to my house and been to another's home. I've even been told not to rip off the botl logo etc if I made t shirts lol. I understand why people are protective of this place and it's exclusivity and I see why some people are taken aback by that protectiveness which sometimes seems to contradict being a brotherhood. Generally though the spirit is a brotherhood and if that is not your intent or spirit it shows. a brotherhood is an uncomfortable place for someone with no intent of being a brother. Sometimes there are misunderstandings tho and men work shyt out.