HERF question
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Any interest in a HERF at my shop? First cigar on me....I'll make it an El Triunfador...Please advise....Regards....E
I believe I'd have to make that the drive and be there for that one.:clap:
Note I was shouting hence the CAPS...lol If it was an acronym I would have posted as H.E.R.F.:stretchgr
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///M POWERRR
Ill be there!
Me too!
I never heard of one, just know it's meaning.
To Chuck, HERF's are not just for men. We smoke the majority of cigars and enjoy getting out of the cave once in a while to smoke cigars with our fellow man and discuss manly things.
To Chuck, HERF's are not just for men. We smoke the majority of cigars and enjoy getting out of the cave once in a while to smoke cigars with our fellow man and discuss manly things.
See Big Easy's response....Just to clear the air though, I found it funny. I opened myself up to ridicule as you can see in the original post. I do strive to defy the logic behind the infamous "there are no stupid questions" principle.
Dude, there are no stupid questions. I could seach back for all the stupid shit I've said or asked on here, but That would just make me look really dumb. Cigaradvisor.com defines a herf as
Herf
A lively gathering of cigar-smoking comrades who meet in a restaurant, club, cigar store or home to share their appreciation of fine cigars.
Herf
A lively gathering of cigar-smoking comrades who meet in a restaurant, club, cigar store or home to share their appreciation of fine cigars.
Sorry for the big cut and paste, but I wondered this myself and looked it up some time ago and found this on ASC.
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Guy, quoting entirely from Microsoft Explorapedia.
The term "Herf" used to describe the smoking of a cigar comes from the 1960's in America when many cigar smokers listened to Herf Alpert and the Tijuana Brass while smoking their favorite stogie. The music was latinesque and thus provided an atmosphere of semi-cuban reminiscence. Soon, cigar smokers began to say things like "I was with the Brass last night and the Herf was so good I thought I was in Havana." Thus, we can all thank Herf Alpert for his influence on 'garbonics.
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From: CigarrMan (cigarrman@aol.com)
Subject: Re: "HERF" The actual & true meaning Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
Date: 1997/07/16
The term "Herf" has been variously defined, incorrectly, in this group. After an extensive investigation of the term, I am able to provide a concise definition.
The term is a derivitive of several languages. To better understand the true meaning of the word one must realize that language is a changing thing; it moves about with various social structures, from land to land.
The Greek derivation is "erphos" from "eos", meaning 'skin'. This is further by a review of the Greek words "Terphos" and Sterphos." This is actually only the begining of the common, or present usage of the term.
An example of the way language travels, and is bastardized, is to be seen in the American Indian Language of Taino. In this language the use of the word "Hura" means wind. The proper pronunciation if akin to "Herf", actually *hurrof*.
Now, when you review the Greek's meanderings throughout the Ancient World, you will understand that they travelled to the British Isles. Any stury can tell you this. The Welsh word we would look to is "Herfeiddio", a verb which means to dare, to be brave, and to defy.
Further North and a bit Eastward we must review the Dutch word "Herfst" and the Anglo-Saxon derivitive "Haerfest". These words refer to the mnal season, or the end of summer.
The end of summer is when they harvested the tobacco leaves. See also, the Greek word "Apora", meaning 'end-of-summer'.
Brave souls (Herfeiddiols), would take the freshly harvestd leaves (Erphos=skin=tobacco leaves), at the harvest (Herfst/Haerfest), and smoke them. Somehow the word found it's way into America, pre-Columbus.
The Taino people, simple and naive as they were, took all the above meanings and rolled them into one, thus "Hura" meaning 'wind'.review of the lore of the Taino finds this word used as both a verb and a noun. As a noun it has the simple meaning of "wind", as we use it, today. As a verb, however, it means:"he-who-harvests-the-thin-tobacco-leaves-of-harvest-time-and-smokes- it."
I hope that my painstakingly long search for the true meaning of Herf finally puts the damn thing to rest.
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Bill Prince wrote
In 1827 a man named Emmanuel Herfiger planted a bit of Cuban seed in his small backyard plot in Philadelphia. He lived near Independence Hall, it just so happens.
Old Manny vowed not to smoke another stogie until his seed grew, was harvested, aged, and rolled into what would appear today to look like a Robusto.
Well, the day before he was to smoke his first home-grown cigar happened to be July 4th.
At that time fireworks were fairly primitive things and there was of course no warning written on the package they came in. Come to think of it, they didn't come in any package at all.
Anyway, Manny's 11 year old son, who his friend's called "Herf," the way we would call someone Smitty, suggested that Manny not wait the day and instead light some 4th of July fireworks with the first of his cigars.
"Sounds good to me," said Manny, lighting up that first Robusto with the forerunner of a match. I think it was a stick with some wax on the end that one stuck into a fire. Anyway, the thing lit up like an LGC on a Blazer, prompting Manny to take two or three puffs. Man, he was in cigar smokers heaven! The damn thing tasted like it had been grown, aged, and hand rolled in Cuba! Then he made his fateful mistake... He picked up what we would today call a Cherry Bomb; one with a short fuse. Manny lit the damn thing and before he could get it clear of his cigar, never mind his face, all was lost.
Well, at Manny's wake his wife Lula (some say it was spelled Loola, records are scarce,) insisted that Manny's friends smoke his cigars and drink his whiskey. (Notice that's whiskey with an 'e,' not that other stuff.) This they did, spreading the word of what a great guy Manny had been. And so, to this day, when you sit around smoking a good cigar, perhaps with drink in hand, you will forever owe a debt of gratitude to the man, who after his death, was responsible for coining the term "herf."
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From: Steve Herman (Bigguy46@ix.netcom.com) Subject: Re: Origin of the word Herf Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars View this article only Date: 1998/01/24
ASC slang for " to smoke/consume mass quantities of Cigars" in one continuous sitting"
originating from the Greek "to herd" and combined with the Japanese "Ferfo", "to blow your topknot"
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From: Bob Ray
Subject: Re: HERF -- The true origin
Date: 2001-04-11 21:06:04 PST
Although deadheads may have use the term, that's not how it came into use for cigars in ASC. It originated as a spelling error. Some guy whose name is lost to history wrote a post about sheep herding. He accidentally typed a line about "herfing sheep." I replied that sheep were hard to keep lit and that herfing cigars was a lot easier. Shortly after that, another guy, The Prince of Skeeves, used the phrase "bueno herfing" to describe his experience with some good cigars.
Because my post came just before Deja started archiving posts and the Princ of Skeeve's post came just after, he is usually given the credit for my invention.
Bob, complaining once again
Begin Quote from ASC:
Guy, quoting entirely from Microsoft Explorapedia.
The term "Herf" used to describe the smoking of a cigar comes from the 1960's in America when many cigar smokers listened to Herf Alpert and the Tijuana Brass while smoking their favorite stogie. The music was latinesque and thus provided an atmosphere of semi-cuban reminiscence. Soon, cigar smokers began to say things like "I was with the Brass last night and the Herf was so good I thought I was in Havana." Thus, we can all thank Herf Alpert for his influence on 'garbonics.
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From: CigarrMan (cigarrman@aol.com)
Subject: Re: "HERF" The actual & true meaning Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
Date: 1997/07/16
The term "Herf" has been variously defined, incorrectly, in this group. After an extensive investigation of the term, I am able to provide a concise definition.
The term is a derivitive of several languages. To better understand the true meaning of the word one must realize that language is a changing thing; it moves about with various social structures, from land to land.
The Greek derivation is "erphos" from "eos", meaning 'skin'. This is further by a review of the Greek words "Terphos" and Sterphos." This is actually only the begining of the common, or present usage of the term.
An example of the way language travels, and is bastardized, is to be seen in the American Indian Language of Taino. In this language the use of the word "Hura" means wind. The proper pronunciation if akin to "Herf", actually *hurrof*.
Now, when you review the Greek's meanderings throughout the Ancient World, you will understand that they travelled to the British Isles. Any stury can tell you this. The Welsh word we would look to is "Herfeiddio", a verb which means to dare, to be brave, and to defy.
Further North and a bit Eastward we must review the Dutch word "Herfst" and the Anglo-Saxon derivitive "Haerfest". These words refer to the mnal season, or the end of summer.
The end of summer is when they harvested the tobacco leaves. See also, the Greek word "Apora", meaning 'end-of-summer'.
Brave souls (Herfeiddiols), would take the freshly harvestd leaves (Erphos=skin=tobacco leaves), at the harvest (Herfst/Haerfest), and smoke them. Somehow the word found it's way into America, pre-Columbus.
The Taino people, simple and naive as they were, took all the above meanings and rolled them into one, thus "Hura" meaning 'wind'.review of the lore of the Taino finds this word used as both a verb and a noun. As a noun it has the simple meaning of "wind", as we use it, today. As a verb, however, it means:"he-who-harvests-the-thin-tobacco-leaves-of-harvest-time-and-smokes- it."
I hope that my painstakingly long search for the true meaning of Herf finally puts the damn thing to rest.
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Bill Prince wrote
In 1827 a man named Emmanuel Herfiger planted a bit of Cuban seed in his small backyard plot in Philadelphia. He lived near Independence Hall, it just so happens.
Old Manny vowed not to smoke another stogie until his seed grew, was harvested, aged, and rolled into what would appear today to look like a Robusto.
Well, the day before he was to smoke his first home-grown cigar happened to be July 4th.
At that time fireworks were fairly primitive things and there was of course no warning written on the package they came in. Come to think of it, they didn't come in any package at all.
Anyway, Manny's 11 year old son, who his friend's called "Herf," the way we would call someone Smitty, suggested that Manny not wait the day and instead light some 4th of July fireworks with the first of his cigars.
"Sounds good to me," said Manny, lighting up that first Robusto with the forerunner of a match. I think it was a stick with some wax on the end that one stuck into a fire. Anyway, the thing lit up like an LGC on a Blazer, prompting Manny to take two or three puffs. Man, he was in cigar smokers heaven! The damn thing tasted like it had been grown, aged, and hand rolled in Cuba! Then he made his fateful mistake... He picked up what we would today call a Cherry Bomb; one with a short fuse. Manny lit the damn thing and before he could get it clear of his cigar, never mind his face, all was lost.
Well, at Manny's wake his wife Lula (some say it was spelled Loola, records are scarce,) insisted that Manny's friends smoke his cigars and drink his whiskey. (Notice that's whiskey with an 'e,' not that other stuff.) This they did, spreading the word of what a great guy Manny had been. And so, to this day, when you sit around smoking a good cigar, perhaps with drink in hand, you will forever owe a debt of gratitude to the man, who after his death, was responsible for coining the term "herf."
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From: Steve Herman (Bigguy46@ix.netcom.com) Subject: Re: Origin of the word Herf Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars View this article only Date: 1998/01/24
ASC slang for " to smoke/consume mass quantities of Cigars" in one continuous sitting"
originating from the Greek "to herd" and combined with the Japanese "Ferfo", "to blow your topknot"
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From: Bob Ray
Subject: Re: HERF -- The true origin
Date: 2001-04-11 21:06:04 PST
Although deadheads may have use the term, that's not how it came into use for cigars in ASC. It originated as a spelling error. Some guy whose name is lost to history wrote a post about sheep herding. He accidentally typed a line about "herfing sheep." I replied that sheep were hard to keep lit and that herfing cigars was a lot easier. Shortly after that, another guy, The Prince of Skeeves, used the phrase "bueno herfing" to describe his experience with some good cigars.
Because my post came just before Deja started archiving posts and the Princ of Skeeve's post came just after, he is usually given the credit for my invention.
Bob, complaining once again
"Sometimes a herf is just a herf"_E.. Anthony
Just to put it out there. the guys name is HERB Alpert not herf....
I know it was a cit and paste, but whoever wrote that originally is an idiot.
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Make that Herb Alpert and the TJB....:devil:
Yeah that's what I meant. eveyone know I can't type.:hammersma