i had my first tat today it was a Tatuaje Havana IV at first it didn't really live up to the reputation that brothers have given it had a horrible burn for about the first inch and the taste just wasn't there but after the first inch it smoothed out and burned great i got a lot of really nice leather from it after that experience i will jump at the chance to try another type of tat when i find one but my local cigar shop only carries Havana IV