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well... Im suspended... now what?
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Crypto Sailor
Loose Lips Sink Ships
You know what they say about snitches? They always get stitches...:nono: Yea if you got a union rep have em fight for you. Unless they deemed you the "Safety Rep" if not ask did they hire you to work or babysit? My .02
Cigary43
Just Another Ashhole
I'd seek a Union Rep if you are in a Union otherwise sharpen up your resume' and become invisible at work from now on. Go in and do your job and keep your eyes on your job only and the next time something happens tell you were too busy doing what you get paid to do and that doesn't include watching others doing their job.
PLUSH
Some random brother
Are you serious! Dude, if someone did something that is wrong, why should you not say something. The OP did not really elaborate, but come on, take some Fing responsibility for your actions. I can't believe people have posted, "talk to your union re", blah, blah, blah. That is why unions suck. Where is the responsibility, the accountability. I guess it depends where you live or an age thing. But in my house, I tell my kids wrong is wrong. Whether you do it or see it done. Make it right. Yeah, some times it sucks but learn from it and don't expect some else to fix it for you.
Jfire
BoM 9/9' 9/11' 8/12'
Plush hope you never get fired for a unjust cause. You'll have to tell your kids how you got fired by a asswhole manager because he had a bad day and you had no Union representation. Just curious do you own a business?
PLUSH
Some random brother
Yes, I've been fired, once. When I was 17. I hated the job and walked off. How do you know this was unjust? I do not think this is as you say, some ass manager who had a bad day. If it is, then yeah, that sucks. Just what is so hard about doing the right thing? Also, what is a union rep going to do? If you did something wrong, then there should be some consequences. That was the whole point, what are you going to learn from this? What, that your manager is a asshole?
and, no, I do not own a business. The only business I own is me.
Jfire
BoM 9/9' 9/11' 8/12'
My point is if you have never been in a union. Getting on a public foroumn like this one and bashing any organization like union, is probably not a smart one. In Joliet we have been Union for many years. It was are Union that made the decision many years ago to walk off the job becasue of low wages and poor working conditions for fireman in our city. They wanted better wages for the job they were doing to protect the citizens in our city. If we were not a organized Union fire dept. we would today still be doing this job for low wages and worse working conditions. That is just 1 of many benifits of having Union representation. We also have a contract w or city that states certain things like firing your ass for a unjust cause is illegal. And if it ever happens you will be afford representation from the Union.
xddco
The Skipper
I feel your pain, Danno! Several years ago, I was let go from a six figure executive job at a privately held corporation because I did not immediately admonish/discipline one of my employees for accidently sending an inappropriate email to the entire company. I lost 4 years of profit sharing and it took me 6 months to find a better job..... The employee who actually sent the email was "protected". I had to go to court for wrongful termination and eventually settled. During that process, I found out that many other employees had been let go for lesser offenses and without warning, because the family owners had deep pockets and had a "one strike and you are out" culture. They fired you and hoped that you wouldn't sue... and if you did, they felt it was better to just write you a check and send you on your way. It kept everyone afraid of losing their jobs...... my lawyer called it "golden handcuffs".....
The lesson I learned is to never get comfortable and when it comes to a paycheck and quality of life.... true friends will never do anything to jeopardize YOURS. In addition, I learned to constantly network and have another option available at all times.... the company cares about your work, not you..... they can always find someone else to do your work... and usually for less money.
And about unions..... I currently manage 1000 union employees. In MY situation... all I can say is that the unions do everything they possibly can to stifle productivity, reward bad behavior, villianize excellence, and inhibit accountability. It is pathetic. There is no hope of ever building any type of single organizational culture that rewards excellence and continuous improvement as long as management and the rank and file are constantly mistrustful of each other and the union strives for the acceptable level of mediocrity when it comes to responsibility and performance.
The lesson I learned is to never get comfortable and when it comes to a paycheck and quality of life.... true friends will never do anything to jeopardize YOURS. In addition, I learned to constantly network and have another option available at all times.... the company cares about your work, not you..... they can always find someone else to do your work... and usually for less money.
And about unions..... I currently manage 1000 union employees. In MY situation... all I can say is that the unions do everything they possibly can to stifle productivity, reward bad behavior, villianize excellence, and inhibit accountability. It is pathetic. There is no hope of ever building any type of single organizational culture that rewards excellence and continuous improvement as long as management and the rank and file are constantly mistrustful of each other and the union strives for the acceptable level of mediocrity when it comes to responsibility and performance.
I had a union job when I was much younger and going to school. My personal experience is that like any organization there is good and bad. Most of my family were/are work blue collar jobs that are unionized and grew up in a pro-union family. Personally, I would never work another union job but I also understand their place.
