Something to think about!

[BEN(SWEDEN)]

I don't mind being asked to participate in stuff like this if it's by someone that I know or have dealt with in the past. To receive this type of message from a random botl though I could see how that would be taken as bad form.

I agree!

 

[Jwrussell]

And then there are those of us on the other side of this. I think it is in good form to to gather brothers to help in certain situations.

I've done it once in my 4 years here, for a deserving brother on a special day. I asked 2 other guys whom were buddies with him and been blessed by him in the past. They easily agreed.

I wonder if you are getting random requests for/from people you don't really deal with?

But the point is if you dont like the idea then no one is forcing you to do it. Just tell the guy, no thanks.

Each guy see's/does gifting a bit different, and thats ok IMO.

Respectfully,
Matt

My .02. There are ways to go about this, and sending PM's to people you do not know is not one of them. Certainly(!) there are times and situations where pulling together a number of people to lay the smack down on a deserving brother is called for. In those situations either a general thread posting a call to arms saying, "Mass bombing of a deserving brother! PM for instructions if interested" is always acceptable. If individual PMs are the way you want to go to keep things on the down-low that's fine, but send them to brothers you know and in the best of all situations, who know the recipient.

What you described above is not what is being described here. These are random requests from people the brother receiving the PM may not know and requesting a bomb be sent to someone the brother probably doesn't know.

 

[Angry Bill]

My .02. There are ways to go about this, and sending PM's to people you do not know is not one of them. Certainly(!) there are times and situations where pulling together a number of people to lay the smack down on a deserving brother is called for. In those situations either a general thread posting a call to arms saying, "Mass bombing of a deserving brother! PM for instructions if interested" is always acceptable. If individual PMs are the way you want to go to keep things on the down-low that's fine, but send them to brothers you know and in the best of all situations, who know the recipient.

What you described above is not what is being described here. These are random requests from people the brother receiving the PM may not know and requesting a bomb be sent to someone the brother probably doesn't know.

Well said Jason. I am not going to repeat what I said earlier. I am a little disappointed in some folks lately. Without starting a firestorm, I will say this.

Honesty, respect, compassion, trust, loyalty, courage are cornerstones of how I live my life. These are not words, they are ethical principles that I live by. I understand that man has the freewill to decide if they decide to follow these priniciples or not. Some take shortcuts and believe the end justifies the means. Others believe they can buy the loyalty and support of others for future use based on their actions. We know the type.

Lately, I have seen a lack of ethics in some. I am all for sharing the share, but greed on some folks part has taken a front seat on some peoples mindset lately. We are a community of different people, fro different walks of lives that have our own principles we subscribe to. What we do share is a love of cigars and seek brotherhood/sisterhood. Some will find lasting friendships, others will find nothing here that will keep them satisfied. What we all need to do is respect others though.

Sharing the share means, I give you freely something that I have which I know might bring you joy. It's not solicitated. It's freely given. There is no benefit in my giving you something and nothing is expected or required in return.

Enough of my soap box orating. If you want to discuss this more, whether you agree or not, feel free to pm me.

Respectfully,

B

 

[ciggy]

In all my time as a member here on BOTL I have only asked for a bombing campiagn twice and one just reciently to a deserving brother and one at Christmas who didn't get one gift under the tree.
I am sorry if by doing this I have offended anybody as it was certainly not my entention. I guess I've never looked at BOTL as "That" kind of place and always "Bombed" from my heart. I've hit noobs and ongoing hit's with long time members and never been upset when asked to help in a bombing campaign. If I can I do and If I can't I can't. I don't think I've hurt anybody by doing either one or crossed some ethical line on this site. I just like to have a little fun and that's all there is to that. I personaly have never asked for free cigars nor no anybody on this site who has. I've also contacted the one's who have invited me and told them why I can or can't.
With that said...again my apologies to thoes offended by the two time's I've ever asked.

 

[ciggy]

Honesty, respect, compassion, trust, loyalty, courage are cornerstones of how I live my life. These are not words, they are ethical principles that I live by. I understand that man has the freewill to decide if they decide to follow these priniciples or not. Some take shortcuts and believe the end justifies the means. Others believe they can buy the loyalty and support of others for future use based on their actions. We know the type.

Lately, I have seen a lack of ethics in some. I am all for sharing the share, but greed on some folks part has taken a front seat on some peoples mindset lately.

Sharing the share means, I give you freely something that I have which I know might bring you joy. It's not solicitated. It's freely given. There is no benefit in my giving you something and nothing is expected or required in return.

B

I like you have been raised with these ethics as well...However I guess I haven't seen the dark side to which you refer the second paragraph.
I agree with the last paragraph 110%...What I do or ask comes from just doing my part on BOTL and being as good as a member as I possibly can.

 

[blooz4u]

In all my time as a member here on BOTL I have only asked for a bombing campiagn twice and one just reciently to a deserving brother and one at Christmas who didn't get one gift under the tree.
I am sorry if by doing this I have offended anybody as it was certainly not my entention. I guess I've never looked at BOTL as "That" kind of place and always "Bombed" from my heart. I've hit noobs and ongoing hit's with long time members and never been upset when asked to help in a bombing campaign. If I can I do and If I can't I can't. I don't think I've hurt anybody by doing either one or crossed some ethical line on this site. I just like to have a little fun and that's all there is to that. I personaly have never asked for free cigars nor no anybody on this site who has. I've also contacted the one's who have invited me and told them why I can or can't.
With that said...again my apologies to thoes offended by the two time's I've ever asked.

No need to cal yourself out, or explain your actions, Tom. You're a great brother, and a a great part of the brotherhood here.

I, personally, do not have a problem at all with a brother that I'm familiar with asking me to help out via PM. Sometimes I respond, and sometimes I delete them. It's not a big issue.

 

[ciggy]

No need to cal yourself out, or explain your actions, Tom. You're a great brother, and a a great part of the brotherhood here.

I, personally, do not have a problem at all with a brother that I'm familiar with asking me to help out via PM. Sometimes I respond, and sometimes I delete them. It's not a big issue.

Thanks AJ...I just felt bad about it and wanted to apologize.

 

[RyJ Smoker]

Guilty....sent out a request last week to some friends on here, for a hit on a mutual friend.....first time ever doing something like this. I was the target of a carpet bombing myself, a couple of months ago.

I apologize if I offended anyone, or made anyone feel uncomfortable.


Jeffrey L.

 

[BGC]

I've never received any bomb request. Probably because I have a crappy stash and use old coffee cans for my humidors. I like the old coffee flavor it gives everything. Although I put my Gurkhas in zipper bags, I love them just the way they are.

 

[Jwrussell]

I'm not sure if we are all on the same page here, because I see people apologizing for things that I don't see (as they are explained) as a problem.


Example: Headbanger sends me a PM about bombing Boppa-Wasch into the ground. No problems whatsoever.

Example2: (not using actual names so as not to offend anyone) JoeSchmoe1 who I've never had any real discussions with PM's me about bombing JoeSchome2 who I've never even read a post by. Problems.

I know that's overly simplistic, but I don't think anyone's got any problem with anyone talking to friends about bombing someone, it's more about contacting people you don't really know or requesting that others bomb people they don't really know.

 

[RyJ Smoker]

I know that's overly simplistic, but I don't think anyone's got any problem with anyone talking to friends about bombing someone, it's more about contacting people you don't really know or requesting that others bomb people they don't really know.

Thanks for saying that. I now feel much better and couldn't agree with you more.


Jeffrey L.

 

[Angry Bill]

I like you have been raised with these ethics as well...However I guess I haven't seen the dark side to which you refer the second paragraph.
I agree with the last paragraph 110%...What I do or ask comes from just doing my part on BOTL and being as good as a member as I possibly can.

Ciggy, you were not the problem, so no worries.

 

[ciggy]

Ciggy, you were not the problem, so no worries.

Thanks Bill...I appreciate that. I Know you ment well.