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That, the Ratzilla, L40 and the now UF13 are on my white whale list lol.

I will surely grab a couple if they last until after the first. However I was really hoping for something longer then a Nub this time. Are great as these are I really which he would make something with a little more meat on the bones so to speak.

Matt Booth and Andre Farkas are both from or live in LA don't they? They're is a large Asian influence in LA and a lot of California I believe. That could be why. How are Indonesian cigars? Any decent brands to look for?

Id love to go to the Casa Party, but man can you get a bit closer like somewhere in Michigan. Really want that L40 lol Wouldn't mind getting my hands on some of the MF13s too. I'm sure they will be able to do phone orders right?

I see and that makes sense too. One of the reason I like the Liga line so much and don't mind paying for it i because I know you all refuse to cut corners with it. I know when I buy one its the best it can be or it wouldn't be there. As much as I want a Ratzilla I can wait for them, its no...

yeah, there's one born every minute. I was pretty surprised when I saw that box on there, maybe a little moreso when I saw he had sold it. Then again maybe I wasnt Yeah I need to keep telling myself that this is just the first wave. Kinda interesting watching it all go down as a spectator...

Yeah. I also read that they cant even make enough regular rats, so making Ratzillas would just hurt that even more.

Ive heard these mentioned, but I dont know a ton about them. What are they exactly? When are they coming? And Steve? Any possibility on the Ratzillas? The Dirty Rat is one of my favorites and more of it would be great.

Now thats cool. It seems like these are going a lot faster than anyone expected them too. about 4 minutes a shot from NHC and 30 minutes for a scavenger hunt at smoke inn. Its not looking good. Hopefully one of my local sources comes through.

Yeah I've found that anything that high I just don't enjoy smoking. I try to keep my sticks around 63 or so. Draw is great. Start getting over 65 and it gets too tight for my liking.

Oh yeah. I have the same problem, especially if its something I really want to try.

Why wont you smoke one right away?

I've always though about trying that, but my luck I would either shrink it too much or it would end up uneven or something like that. I saw that today too, sometimes it seems like there are a lot of profiteers over there. Unfortunately you are probably right

Hopefully. Some have gotten them though, like NHC

Well seems like I'm not having any luck with the other places either. I've contacted a few other places and their boxes are already sold. Ill try NHC again, but Im sure they will sell just as fast as they did yesterday. I though these would be easier to get.

I figured they may last a bit longer there. Anyone see any at B&Ms yet?

There will be more, the 13 just is getting some first. The real distribution isnt for another week or 2 as I understand it.

Killing me, Pete really needs to do an even here in Michigan.

Not to hijack, but how do they compare to the branded cigars out there

Really? I though just the 13 got the dress boxes and everyone else got the regulars