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One was Tat TAA 11 and one was 858 SG.

It's real in Derek's imagination. :)

No but I've had two shops tell me that there no such thing as the cigar I was smoking.

Pretty sure there's a question in my mind that he shipped them.

So if he has stock and then told me and others he has no stock and will refund, what does that say?

More than 4?

Can't help you smoking that crap bro. :)

I've never had anything not get to me but I suppose there's always a first time. I know maybe 10 people who ordered and not one received the initial order.

I'm not convinced he shipped any of them.

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People always make this so complicated (and I make it too simple, I know.) Basement should be cooler than 70. Turning this on in such an environment will just cause you trouble and then you'll make more threads about it and I'll have to comment on them and on and on. :) Get a few Bovedas...

Did you guys open up again? That's great.

It's not that obvious if you don't know. There are no issues with asking.

I'm offended and I'm Canadian. :)

You should be fine without needing to cool it if you find a cool place. My basement wino is never on.

Just the glass top is enough.

It's fake but some fakes smoke fine. Cut one open if you want to see what's in it.

What is he now? I really don't read reviews. Don't much care what people who I don't know enjoy as I don't know if they're palate is similar to mine. I listen to @W.B. if he gives me advice and I seem to like most of the stuff @hdroadglide likes but other than that, I've never really...

But with most NCs, you don't know when they were rolled.