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I shake my head when the baseball people say that roids were not a banned substance at a certain date in time. The only date that really matters is when US laws declared that steroids were illegal.

I was a huge Yankee fan as a kid. As time wears on, I really have lost interest in all sports.

I will take the good old days of Mantle.
He (and his wife and 4 sons) were all alcoholics. He died of liver cancer which was found after he received a liver transplant.
 

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I think the point is they can't go back and arrest him for being under the influence years later. So there won't be any legal repercussion, and whether there should be is a whole different topic. A-Rod's image has been tainted like the rest of the users in baseball that have been caught and bad for the image of the sport.
 

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Correct but when it come to illegal drugs you can be arrested for being under the influence of them, that would make doing them illegal as well.
If you drink enough cold medicine you could be concidered under the influence, does that make drinking cold medicine illegal.

Under the influence can mean anything that is mind altering.
 

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PUBLIC INTOXICATION....if you are high on crack,pot,lsd,whatever, you can be arrested for PUBLIC INTOXICATION.
That would fall under, under the infuence. I noticed that you lumped everything togather. In other words you can not find a law that states it is illegal to do Pot, LSD, Crack, ect. You can only find an umbrella law that covers being under the influence. If I took to much of my pain meds would I fall under your Public Intoxification? YES. But I have a script that says I can take them legally, why is that.

It is becuase the law you are looking for does not exist.
 
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9.28.040 Persons under the influence of liquor or drugs in public prohibited.

It is unlawful for any person under the influence of intoxicating liquor, or any drug, or the combined influence of intoxicating liquor and any drug, to wilfully appear, remain or be in or on any private premises or in any private house to the annoyance of any other person. [Ord. 865 § 1, 1984.]
You are missing this.
 

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9.28.040 Persons under the influence of liquor or drugs in public prohibited.

It is unlawful for any person under the influence of intoxicating liquor, or any drug, or the combined influence of intoxicating liquor and any drug, to wilfully appear, remain or be in or on any private premises or in any private house to to the annoyance of any other person. [Ord. 865 § 1, 1984.]
I think you just proved my point again.

Find a law that states it is illegasl to do any of these. Again your laws says under the influence of intoxicating liquor, or any drug and to the annoyance of any other person.

It does not say you can not be under the influence of intoxicating liquor, or any drug.

It says you can not be under the influence of intoxicating liquor, or any drug and be an annoyance to any other person.

Again I ask find a law that states you can not consume Pot, LSD, Crack.

Don't give me some under the influence law. As I have shown Under the Influence can be legal substances as well. So it has nothing to do with the legality of the substance in question.
 

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this turned into a law school thread. lets get back to talking about the current group of money hungry, law breaking scumbags that call themselves athletes.

the real problem is that they are sometimes called sports heroes. in the good old days, people looked up to athletes. These days, they should be considered in the same class as most politicians
 

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It is not illegal to be under the influence of any thing in a private residence while not causing a disturbance.

Look at it like this:

four guys at a party "A" "B" "C" "D"

Person "A" is drinking liqour
Person "B" is smoking pot
Person "C" is over medicated on pain pills
Person "D" is high on crack

They all cause a the police to come

If the police come who gets charged with what? If you say they all get charged with being under the influence you win. And in wining you aslo have to agree that under the influence has nothing to do with the actual substance, but the state of mind a person is in at the time.

Because half of them did not do an illegal drug. Under the influence is a blanket law that covers anything that is mind altering (legal or illegal).
 

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this turned into a law school thread. lets get back to talking about the current group of money hungry, law breaking scumbags that call themselves athletes.

the real problem is that they are sometimes called sports heroes. in the good old days, people looked up to athletes. These days, they should be considered in the same class as most politicians
Could not agree more, but this has been going on since the begining of sports in this country. The only thing that has changed is that the media is everywhere now, and these guys get shown for what they really are. Just keep in mond they are no different than you and me. They just make more money. They have the same problems and addictions (well maybe some have a few more).
 

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the steroid deal just pisses me off. it makes the games meaningless. also, todays stars will fade away fast once they retire.

Ruth, Mantle, DiMaggio...these are names that will live forever.

Arod, McGuire, Bonds...in a few years, nobody will remember them
 

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and now, I dont have to hear any more bullshit about Arod being the best ever. anybody who needs to stick a needle in his arm to perform doesnt get my vote. and i dont care if he just did it for a few years.
 
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