Thanks Chuck I think I will pass on your generous offer, however I can guarantee it will be better than it was 20 years ago. :wink:I have a 20 year old Thompson with your name on it Ken. :innocent:
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Thanks Chuck I think I will pass on your generous offer, however I can guarantee it will be better than it was 20 years ago. :wink:I have a 20 year old Thompson with your name on it Ken. :innocent:
6 BOXES AGING?If i was going to age some NC's I think they would be Tatuajes. I have about six boxes aging. 2 cents.
In general, yes, however this is of course largely dependent on the manner in which they were stored. I've had cigars with 30+ years of age on them that were fantastic, and others that were like smoking air. Part of that is from the cigar being past it's prime, but also due to improper storage. I had an opportunity to smoke a cigar that was 100 years old and it still was very flavorful. It was a Partagas that was obviously extremely well cared for. So if they are stored properly for extreme long term aging they can maintain their viability for a very long time.Second cent, is not to get to overwhelmed with trying to get you cigars to be senior citizens. I believe that any cigar will improve with more age than it had when it shipped from the vendor, but at some point the benefits aren't worth additional age and for some cigars can mellow too much.
These are extreme examples and for the most part I think most cigars will peak (hit their best) with tobacco ten to twenty years old. .
It may be better, but as my daddy still says, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit!I have a 20 year old Thompson with your name on it Ken. :innocent:
100 years old! That's incredible! To think of all that's transpired from the time that thing was rolled. All the things that have happend and that cigar had been lovingly cared for throughout it all. WWI, WWII, the great depression and on and on.In general, yes, however this is of course largely dependent on the manner in which they were stored. I've had cigars with 30+ years of age on them that were fantastic, and others that were like smoking air. Part of that is from the cigar being past it's prime, but also due to improper storage. I had an opportunity to smoke a cigar that was 100 years old and it still was very flavorful. It was a Partagas that was obviously extremely well cared for. So if they are stored properly for extreme long term aging they can maintain their viability for a very long time.
Yea, your right on that one. Does anyone know what conditions tend to kill a cigar? it is temp or getting dried out or what?In general, yes, however this is of course largely dependent on the manner in which they were stored.
Too dry is bad bad. There are various opinions on temp and it's effect on the cigars. Too cold is bad for them etc. and vice versa. To me, keep them at a reasonable temperature and make sure they are adequately humidified and you are good to go long or short term. I know of some guys that store their cigars for super long storage as low as in the mid 50's and they swear by that. That's a bit low for me, but to each his own.Yea, your right on that one. Does anyone know what conditions tend to kill a cigar? it is temp or getting dried out or what?
When I smoked my first Tatuaje Brown label I put a box of Tainos, Noellas andtwo other s down as I thought they were good but a little harsh. Same with a box of the old Henerys and a box of Holts conniseur (sp). I bought two boxes of the East coast as they were awesome out of the box. I just like these cigars so these went down and I bought some to smoke. Its kinda fun. How long. Hell I dont know. I will begin to open them next year. At least one box of the east coast is in for longer. i am not a guy that does this regularly. I tend to smoke my sticks but thsi was something I could do so I did.6 BOXES AGING?opeyes:
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Im guessing thats not counting the ones youre smoking now.
Ive got 1 Tatuaje Havana VI robusto in my humi. Had 2 (thanks smurf), smoked one and it was great! This one would have been gone too but I just keep holding onto it (maybe I like knowing its still there but its taunting me and Im loosing willpower).
Chuck, how long do you recommend I age this one? Im thinking another 12 hours. I should be done with dinner by then.
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I smoked a 30 year old cigar on my cruise that was so good it brought tears to my eyes. I have read extensively on this and found some good and mostlt bad info. best advice is find people that do this and know what will age well or knew what would age well.I've got .02 on this.
First cent is any cigar that is too full bodied for you to enjoy today, will benefit from aging. You may develop a taste for a fuller cigar with time, and the cigar will mellow with time as well, so you can meet in the middle.
Second cent, is not to get to overwhelmed with trying to get you cigars to be senior citizens. I believe that any cigar will improve with more age than it had when it shipped from the vendor, but at some point the benefits aren't worth additional age and for some cigars can mellow too much.
Couple Examples, I had two clear Havana cigars a while back, a "Headline" from the 1950's and a "Royalist" from the 1930's. The Headline, had mellowed to the point it was very mild. I still enjoyed it, but it was probably a much better smoke in the 70's than either when it was rolled or when I smoked it. The Royalist which was older was still a med-full with great flavor and was a delight to smoke, this cigar would have likely been much fuller than I liked when it was rolled.
These are extreme examples and for the most part I think most cigars will peak (hit their best) with tobacco ten to twenty years old. Keep in mind that when you get a cigar, depending on the quality and the maker, the tobacco may already be five or more years old to start with. In general the cheaper the cigar, the younger the tobacco and the greatest the benefit from letting them age. Just remember you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
I smoked a 30 year old cigar on my cruise that was so good it brought tears to my eyes. I have read extensively on this and found some good and mostlt bad info. best advice is find people that do this and know what will age well or knew what would age well.
Thanks Chuck, but I was only joking about a recommendation on aging this stick. I only have one, its on death row and the clock is ticking fast. I just saw that you are aging 6 boxes of Tats and my first thought was WOW 6 boxes, good for you man. That would probably be around the most sticks of any given cigar I would have on hand.How long. Hell I dont know. I will begin to open them next year. At least one box of the east coast is in for longer. i am not a guy that does this regularly. I tend to smoke my sticks but thsi was something I could do so I did.
After you keep the cigars in the box your screwed. I would buy boxes and put them in humis. Four humis later began to look for a better plan. Cooledor. Bought one and put my three little boxes in there and thought wow I will have all this room. Two more cooledors later, all packed I give up and I am looking for a BIG wardrobe humi. I love pulling a box and and then a cigar. It is just fun. Warning Box storage makes it very very hard to convince the wife that you have a moderate habit. She suggested the wardrobe. But then she is Cigar Gal. :thumbsup:Thanks Chuck, but I was only joking about a recommendation on aging this stick. I only have one, its on death row and the clock is ticking fast. I just saw that you are aging 6 boxes of Tats and my first thought was WOW 6 boxes, good for you man. That would probably be around the most sticks of any given cigar I would have on hand.
Someday the budget will allow boxes. :thumbsup: