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If i was going to age some NC's I think they would be Tatuajes. I have about six boxes aging. 2 cents.
6 BOXES AGING? :popeyes::popeyes::popeyes:
I’m guessing that’s not counting the ones you’re smoking now.

I’ve got 1 Tatuaje Havana VI robusto in my humi. Had 2 (thanks smurf), smoked one and it was great! This one would have been gone too but I just keep holding onto it (maybe I like knowing it’s still there but it’s taunting me and I’m loosing willpower).

Chuck, how long do you recommend I age this one? I’m thinking another 12 hours. I should be done with dinner by then.

6 BOXES??? :popeyes::popeyes::popeyes:
 

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I've got .02 on this.

First cent is any cigar that is too full bodied for you to enjoy today, will benefit from aging. You may develop a taste for a fuller cigar with time, and the cigar will mellow with time as well, so you can meet in the middle.

Second cent, is not to get to overwhelmed with trying to get you cigars to be senior citizens. I believe that any cigar will improve with more age than it had when it shipped from the vendor, but at some point the benefits aren't worth additional age and for some cigars can mellow too much.

Couple Examples, I had two clear Havana cigars a while back, a "Headline" from the 1950's and a "Royalist" from the 1930's. The Headline, had mellowed to the point it was very mild. I still enjoyed it, but it was probably a much better smoke in the 70's than either when it was rolled or when I smoked it. The Royalist which was older was still a med-full with great flavor and was a delight to smoke, this cigar would have likely been much fuller than I liked when it was rolled.

These are extreme examples and for the most part I think most cigars will peak (hit their best) with tobacco ten to twenty years old. Keep in mind that when you get a cigar, depending on the quality and the maker, the tobacco may already be five or more years old to start with. In general the cheaper the cigar, the younger the tobacco and the greatest the benefit from letting them age. Just remember you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
 

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My aging practice consists mostly of just buying more than i'm smoking of whatever it is that i like. I jsut keep getting and getting; it's a snowball affect. If i'[m smoking 7 a week, i'm acquiring 20 a week. If i keep that up for the next 15 years i'll be in great shape.

But in all seriousness, i'm of the opinion for whatever reason that the more oily cigars witht eh sungrown and corojo and habano wrappers will age better simply because of the oil content of the leaves; plus they have the abilitiy to get that elusive plume.

But as others have said, a little age won't hurt any cigar.
 

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I have some plume on on a tin of R&J Reserve Maduros that I got from CBid. Plume is that white powdery stuff, right? I actually thought it was mold, and e-mailed customer service. She set me straight, lol. Felt like a dork.

So I'm guessing that plume is good somehow? Is it an indicator that the cigar has aged enough, or simply that it's aging well?
 

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Second cent, is not to get to overwhelmed with trying to get you cigars to be senior citizens. I believe that any cigar will improve with more age than it had when it shipped from the vendor, but at some point the benefits aren't worth additional age and for some cigars can mellow too much.

These are extreme examples and for the most part I think most cigars will peak (hit their best) with tobacco ten to twenty years old. .
In general, yes, however this is of course largely dependent on the manner in which they were stored. I've had cigars with 30+ years of age on them that were fantastic, and others that were like smoking air. Part of that is from the cigar being past it's prime, but also due to improper storage. I had an opportunity to smoke a cigar that was 100 years old and it still was very flavorful. It was a Partagas that was obviously extremely well cared for. So if they are stored properly for extreme long term aging they can maintain their viability for a very long time.
 

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In general, yes, however this is of course largely dependent on the manner in which they were stored. I've had cigars with 30+ years of age on them that were fantastic, and others that were like smoking air. Part of that is from the cigar being past it's prime, but also due to improper storage. I had an opportunity to smoke a cigar that was 100 years old and it still was very flavorful. It was a Partagas that was obviously extremely well cared for. So if they are stored properly for extreme long term aging they can maintain their viability for a very long time.
100 years old! That's incredible! To think of all that's transpired from the time that thing was rolled. All the things that have happend and that cigar had been lovingly cared for throughout it all. WWI, WWII, the great depression and on and on.

Amazing.
 

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Yea, your right on that one. Does anyone know what conditions tend to kill a cigar? it is temp or getting dried out or what?
Too dry is bad bad. There are various opinions on temp and it's effect on the cigars. Too cold is bad for them etc. and vice versa. To me, keep them at a reasonable temperature and make sure they are adequately humidified and you are good to go long or short term. I know of some guys that store their cigars for super long storage as low as in the mid 50's and they swear by that. That's a bit low for me, but to each his own.
 

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6 BOXES AGING? :popeyes::popeyes::popeyes:
I’m guessing that’s not counting the ones you’re smoking now.

I’ve got 1 Tatuaje Havana VI robusto in my humi. Had 2 (thanks smurf), smoked one and it was great! This one would have been gone too but I just keep holding onto it (maybe I like knowing it’s still there but it’s taunting me and I’m loosing willpower).

Chuck, how long do you recommend I age this one? I’m thinking another 12 hours. I should be done with dinner by then.

6 BOXES??? :popeyes::popeyes::popeyes:
When I smoked my first Tatuaje Brown label I put a box of Tainos, Noellas andtwo other s down as I thought they were good but a little harsh. Same with a box of the old Henerys and a box of Holts conniseur (sp). I bought two boxes of the East coast as they were awesome out of the box. I just like these cigars so these went down and I bought some to smoke. Its kinda fun. How long. Hell I dont know. I will begin to open them next year. At least one box of the east coast is in for longer. i am not a guy that does this regularly. I tend to smoke my sticks but thsi was something I could do so I did.
 

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I've got .02 on this.

First cent is any cigar that is too full bodied for you to enjoy today, will benefit from aging. You may develop a taste for a fuller cigar with time, and the cigar will mellow with time as well, so you can meet in the middle.

Second cent, is not to get to overwhelmed with trying to get you cigars to be senior citizens. I believe that any cigar will improve with more age than it had when it shipped from the vendor, but at some point the benefits aren't worth additional age and for some cigars can mellow too much.

Couple Examples, I had two clear Havana cigars a while back, a "Headline" from the 1950's and a "Royalist" from the 1930's. The Headline, had mellowed to the point it was very mild. I still enjoyed it, but it was probably a much better smoke in the 70's than either when it was rolled or when I smoked it. The Royalist which was older was still a med-full with great flavor and was a delight to smoke, this cigar would have likely been much fuller than I liked when it was rolled.

These are extreme examples and for the most part I think most cigars will peak (hit their best) with tobacco ten to twenty years old. Keep in mind that when you get a cigar, depending on the quality and the maker, the tobacco may already be five or more years old to start with. In general the cheaper the cigar, the younger the tobacco and the greatest the benefit from letting them age. Just remember you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
I smoked a 30 year old cigar on my cruise that was so good it brought tears to my eyes. I have read extensively on this and found some good and mostlt bad info. best advice is find people that do this and know what will age well or knew what would age well.
 

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I smoked a 30 year old cigar on my cruise that was so good it brought tears to my eyes. I have read extensively on this and found some good and mostlt bad info. best advice is find people that do this and know what will age well or knew what would age well.

To that point, i'll say that the stuff i'm planning on aging, i plan to bring back out in 5 years or so. I currently have no plans to try and keep that stuff for 30 years. Like Chuck said, i would consult with real experts that know which ones can and cannot be aged that long. Ther'es a place in London i believe that does just this, and has been doing it for a long, long time. I would consult them for sure.
 

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How long. Hell I dont know. I will begin to open them next year. At least one box of the east coast is in for longer. i am not a guy that does this regularly. I tend to smoke my sticks but thsi was something I could do so I did.
Thanks Chuck, but I was only joking about a recommendation on aging this stick. I only have one, it’s on death row and the clock is ticking fast. I just saw that you are aging 6 boxes of Tats and my first thought was WOW 6 boxes, good for you man. That would probably be around the most sticks of any given cigar I would have on hand.
Someday the budget will allow boxes. :thumbsup:
 
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The Purofino DOM was by far the best aged cigar I've ever smoked.

Here's a snippet from their website -

Purofino has recently introduced its new flagship cigar line, the DOM series which we know you're going to really like. Under development since May 1996, the DOM is a select blend of three fifth cut ligero leaves from the Jalapa Valley in Nicaragua and the San Victor valley in the Dominican Republic, and one seco leaf from each region. The cigar uses a Pennsylvania Broadleaf binder which really ads to it's strength and is wrapped in a 3 yr. aged, naturally fermented Connecticut Broadleaf Double Maduro wrapper.

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I have a couple dozen of these now (after a long search) with about 12 years age on them. Absolutely delicious aged blend.
 

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Thanks Chuck, but I was only joking about a recommendation on aging this stick. I only have one, it’s on death row and the clock is ticking fast. I just saw that you are aging 6 boxes of Tats and my first thought was WOW 6 boxes, good for you man. That would probably be around the most sticks of any given cigar I would have on hand.
Someday the budget will allow boxes. :thumbsup:
After you keep the cigars in the box your screwed. I would buy boxes and put them in humis. Four humis later began to look for a better plan. Cooledor. Bought one and put my three little boxes in there and thought wow I will have all this room. Two more cooledors later, all packed I give up and I am looking for a BIG wardrobe humi. I love pulling a box and and then a cigar. It is just fun. Warning Box storage makes it very very hard to convince the wife that you have a moderate habit. She suggested the wardrobe. But then she is Cigar Gal. :thumbsup:
 
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