Federal HST.OK guys. Which ammo do you carry and why?
I carried gold dot or powrball depending on the gun. But I'm buying a new cc pistol soon and want some input please.
^^^ this....What's the new gun chambered in?
In that case, it is hard to go wrong with the Federal HST line of ammo. Gold Dot is still a well respected line of ammo. I've seen and heard some reports of over penetration from the new Hornady Critical Duty in +p.Thanks for the reply guys. The new gun should be a rock island commander sized 1911 in 9mm/22tcm single stack. I have its big brother that's a full size double stack but its too much for ccw IMO. I will be carrying in 9mm. My local is looking for one now. If they can't locate one then I will go with a G19.
I catch flak for it from the ammo gurus, but that's what I carry as well.Personally, I still carry Remington Golden Saber in 124gr.
+1I catch flak for it from the ammo gurus, but that's what I carry as well.
+1... bonded is a key...If it's not a bonded hollow-point, I don't see a reason to carry it.
From various tests that I've seen I wouldn't carry it in a micro (3" barrel) pistol. However, anything the size of a Glock 26 or up should perform quite well. I've seen several tests that showed complete jacket separation with smaller pistols. I haven't seen one using ballistic gel that showed similar results for a full size pistol. It still comes down to have the right combination of bullet for barrel length, I believe.+1
I wonder how many people most "ammo gurus" have actually shot... or how many times they have even been involved in, or around an actual shooting..
My G19's are loaded with 124gr Rem GS.. and have been for the past 16+ years...
I am sure there are other rounds out there that perform "better" (always a relative term).. but my pistols feed it with zero complications (extremely important to me).. and having carried it on NUMEROUS entries and seeing what it can and cannot do "live", I have full faith and confidence in it..
Just my .02 .... YMMV
Federal HST is not a bonded hollow point. They sell the Federal Tactical Bonded, but that is a different bullet.Fed HST or Gold Dots. Either 124+ or 147 standard pressure is fine, whatever I can get.
If it's not a bonded hollow-point, I don't see a reason to carry it.
this is true... sorta..Federal HST is not a bonded hollow point. They sell the Federal Tactical Bonded, but that is a different bullet.
bingo.this is true... sorta..
Federal didnt use traditional bonding techniques to lock the jacket to the core..
but they did in fact lock the jacket to the core (like a bonded bullet does) using a mechanical technique..
Different way to accomplish the same intended result (a jacket that wont easily separate from the core of the bullet)..
But, Federal made a deal about it not being a bonded bullet when they were testing it against the old Ranger T design and the Ranger Bonded. Also when trying to sell it to my friend's department they made an issue about it not being bonded and that if the department felt the need for a bonded bullet they should buy the Tactical Bonded. So, even Federal doesn't call it a bonded bullet even though the jacket and core are mechanically locked together. Most manufacturers use either an electro-chemical fusion process to bond the jacket and core at a molecular level or a form of soldering. Mechanically locked bullets are not commonly thought of as being true bonded bullets, but more of an advancement on the older cup and core style. (Edit to Add) That is why Hornady also refuses to call the Critical Duty bullet a bonded bullet. It is actually a mechanically linked cup and core as well. It has a mechanically linked band around the bullet to stop over expansion and to hold everything together.this is true... sorta..
Federal didnt use traditional bonding techniques to lock the jacket to the core..
but they did in fact lock the jacket to the core (like a bonded bullet does) using a mechanical technique..
Different way to accomplish the same intended result (a jacket that wont easily separate from the core of the bullet)..