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Cigar Perforator PerfDog™

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Spenny, I appreciate your response and explanation as to why you felt the need to use, as it felt to me "mockery" or "tough love" as you said. However accusations of advertising or making infomercials does not in any way fall under tough love.

I replied to Boltman's comments where he expressed confusion about what a portion of my review meant. As far as my review causing several members to be confused, Boltman was the only person who expressed that. You even responded to him with the same explanation that I gave of what was being communicated about the accessory. Tone is hard to pick up from text, so I do not see that as a reasonable excuse for the floodgates of mocking comments that opened up afterwards.

Although I praised several aspects of the cutter I also shared experiences of discomfort with the shoulder design on the body, the damage it caused to non-moistened cigar caps as well as to cigar caps that have pigtails. I also made a suggestion on how the product could be improved to work easier with less chances of damaging a cigar. I also agreed when the comments about issues with tar build up. It seemed that no one took the time to notice that little rose in the "flower" garden!

I have read all the rules about posting reviews and follow them. I make video reviews and written reviews to give people the option to read or watch a review. This is done while adhering to the rules set out by this forum for reviews. I have only posted a few reviews on here that I think others would really like to know about. I release 2-3 reviews a week on my site, so there is no need or desire to use members of this Forum as clicks or traffic to my site. BOTL forum is under a list of friends on my website in order to cause back linking and hopefully bring more flow to this site. I have recommended this Forum to multiple people, consumers and manufacturers alike. I tell them it is a good place to connect with family of the leaf. I hope that is true and until today I have felt that it is!

So that it is clear, my reason for joining BOTL was to make and develop relationships with other cigar lovers and to enjoy reading and writing threads about the hobby we all love. I have interacted much more in other sections of this forum and will continue to do so. I am proud to support this forum with my donations and hope to see it continue to thrive. As far as my username, I used to go by J. Drew on other forums, but changed it as this caused confusion with Jonathan Drew. I now go by Joe Cool or JJCigarReview as alternatives.

I can appreciate community policing and have participated in it myself during many years of forum usage. The problem is that it can become a fine line. If I was breaking any rules, which I don't intend to do, I am very sure the admin and moderators of this forum would tell me, in a private setting. From your response it seems as though there have been bad experiences with people manipulating the forum in the past. I am not here to do that, and it is a shame that people assume that.
 

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Thanks for taking the time to do a write up. This is a neat product. Here's to being made in the USA!! This is something I would actually be interested in trying. I always moisten my caps before cutting so I think it would work out well. lately I've been using the punch that @Tim H bombed me with. Very rarely do i ever have issues with tar build up amd when I do I just hit it with my cigar cuter
 

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Thanks for taking the time to do a write up. This is a neat product. Here's to being made in the USA!! This is something I would actually be interested in trying. I always moisten my caps before cutting so I think it would work out well. lately I've been using the punch that @Tim H bombed me with. Very rarely do i ever have issues with tar build up amd when I do I just hit it with my cigar cuter
Until I lost it while moving, my preferred way to cut a cigar was a punch. I will have to look into acquiring a herfdog cigar perforator :D
 
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I am not sure how giving a detailed review of a product and my opinion of it constitutes an ad or an infomercial. The whole point of a review is to give ones experiences and thoughts on how good or bad something is. I enjoy creatively writing out reviews that are more than just tasting notes or snippets of info one would “actually” find on an ad......

.......You don’t have to agree with my review of a product or a cigar, or how I choose to creatively write or take pictures of stuff, but turning a thread into a mockery of someone and how they choose to share information is not very “BrOTherLy”. It is unfortunate that many of you have felt so comfortable in doing that.
Since I was the one who made the comment the this review read like an ad I feel I should respond. As a person whi has worked in advertising for over 20 years I'd like to think I know a bit about the topic. First I did not say this was an ad. I said it was very detailed and read like an ad. The purpose of a review is typically to inform and report some reviews can get very bias for many reasons but even in extreme cases they attempt to remain neutral to a degree. An ad on the other hand is attempting to persuade. To sell a product. An ad will often attempt to overcome percueved objections. Focus on features and benifits and paint a picture of how you really must try the product. You should be aware that if your style of writing a review comes across as an ad the review itself will lose credibility. Again I had no intent of accusing you of representing the company with your review. I was stating a fact the the style in which this review was writen reads like an ad. You discussed features and benifits. You seemed to address concerns in a manner which appears to overcome them. You mentioned aspects of the product that include the exact type of materials used to make it ( while not uncommon seemed unnecessary to the performance. You make statements of enforcements ( like this is the only cutter you use after trying it) this is a common approach when radio personalities are doing an ad. You made sure to hit the point of all the great colors to choose from. Again not uncommon in a review but in the style you did so it felt persuasive. Finally when people posted comments that could dissuade a potential buyer. You seemed to actively reinforce your enforcement of the product.

I welcome you to the forum and do not wish to come across as non brotherly. With that said if you are planning to have a leg future in doing reviews you should look carefully at the manner in which you present products to be less persuasive and more informative. But again this is just one mans opinion. Your Milage may vary.
 
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Since I was the one who made the comment the this review read like an ad I feel I should respond. As a person whi has worked in advertising for over 20 years I'd like to think I know a bit about the topic. First I did not say this was an ad. I said it was very detailed and read like an ad. The purpose of a review is typically to inform and report some reviews can get very bias for many reasons but even in extreme cases they attempt to remain neutral to a degree. An ad on the other hand is attempting to persuade. To sell a product. An ad will often attempt to overcome percueved objections. Focus on features and benifits and paint a picture of how you really must try the product. You should be aware that if your style of writing a review comes across as an ad the review itself will lose credibility. Again I had no intent of accusing you of representing the company with your review. I was stating a fact the the style in which this review was writen reads like an ad. You discussed features and benifits. You seemed to address concerns in a manner which appears to overcome them. You mentioned aspects of the product that include the exact type of materials used to make it ( while not uncommon seemed unnecessary to the performance. You make statements of enforcements ( like this is the only cutter you use after trying it) this is a common approach when radio personalities are doing an ad. You made sure to hit the point of all the great colors to choose from. Again not uncommon in a review but in the style you did so it felt persuasive. Finally when people posted comments that could dissuade a potential buyer. You seemed to actively reinforce your enforcement of the product.

I welcome you to the forum and do not wish to come across as non brotherly. With that said if you are planning to have a leg future in doing reviews you should look carefully at the manner in which you present products to be less persuasive and more informative. But again this is just one mans opinion. Your Milagros may vary.
I appreciate your constructive criticism and will give respect to someone who has had 20 years in advertising experience. I do not want my reviews to come off as biased or like they are being purchased by a company or manufacturer. I can see where my defensiveness of the review itself, not so much the product, could be interpreted as an endorsement. Although I carry this regularly, I never go anywhere without my Guillotine. Sometimes nothing beats a straight cut and like I mentioned in the review, this does not work for pigtail caps and will only put one small hole in torpedos.

In all the reviews I have done on cigar accessories I discuss the material used in the manufacturing of it, because I work in manufacturing. Things like that catch my eye. In the review, I mentioned the length of time it takes to get the pins into the cigar and the wiggling required. I stated how this can and did cause damage to the cigar. I also said that if they would make the taper longer on the pins this problem wouldn't be there. That comes from my experience from working in a machine shop. I mention the quality of material used in my reviews because the market on everything now days has been flooded by cheap material and poor workmanship. This does end up having an impact on the performance of something over time. For example Microwaves used to last a person 20 years, now they last 5 if you are lucky. Pieces of your vehicle are now made from cheap plastic that breaks easily instead of metal that lasts. A $3 plastic guillotine cutter doesn't last as long as a Xikar one. The material and the way it was manufactured, in my opinion, does have an impact on how well or how long something will perform as intended.

Either way, I will take your critique and use it to better myself when it comes to reviewing cigars and products!
 
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Thanks for taking the time to do a write up. This is a neat product. Here's to being made in the USA!! This is something I would actually be interested in trying. I always moisten my caps before cutting so I think it would work out well. lately I've been using the punch that @Tim H bombed me with. Very rarely do i ever have issues with tar build up amd when I do I just hit it with my cigar cuter
I am glad you enjoyed it. I am all for USA made. Our company has seen the effects of product being shipped to China or Mexico. I normally punch anyway as well and rarely get tar build up either. But like you said a quick snip and that problem is gone!
 
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