Disappointing RP event

[njstone]

I like quite a few RPs, and CAOs. It doesn't bother me that others don't...different tastes and all that. But I like a lot of variety in my cigars at this point, so I keep many different things on hand and enjoy, including what many of you true afficianados would no doubt call yard gars or dog rockets.

 

[Danilo]

I like quite a few RPs, and CAOs. It doesn't bother me that others don't.

CAOs I do too, RP I cannot. They kinda taste like cardboard to me.

 

[5280Duc]

I like quite a few RPs, and CAOs. It doesn't bother me that others don't.

I agree. I had an RP Olde World Reserve last week that I really enjoyed.

 

[Moro]

Nate, I'd be more than glad if ye could link me those facts where Padron admits to dying it's products. I really doubt it due to the lack of dye getting back when wet, but I might be wrong.

 

[Penzip]

Hard to say , alot of big money to be made in the cigar biz.

 

[caseabb]

Nate, I'd be more than glad if ye could link me those facts where Padron admits to dying it's products. I really doubt it due to the lack of dye getting back when wet, but I might be wrong.

No Padron don't dye shit. Show me the link!

 

[uncelnino]

Padron admitted in an article (don't have the link) the the 80th (and some others in the line) is "treated," (i.e. dyed).

According to several articles I've read and interviews I've watched lately, most maduros in the cigar industry today are "treated" for color in some way. The process varries, and uses various parts of the tobacco plant pulped-down into dye. (Some companies will use coffee or other products for dye as well).

The degree to which they need to treat the maddies varies, as does the quality (I agree that the RP Fusion MM (i.e. "Double Maduro") looks way too black to be "real"). Another example--the 1st-gen boxed RP OWR maduros don't look nearly as dyed, and are actually fairly spotty looking. The newer bundled versions are VERY black, and I'd not be suprised if the color came off if it got wet.

The fact is that well-fermented leaves get darker and darker, and people know that. Therefore, manufacturers stared "treating" their maddies, which forced even the high-end manufacturers to "treat" just to keep up appearances.

The interviews I watched said that "treating" does not affect flavor, smoke, or anything else about the cigar at all--and that proper "treatment" will not turn the cigar into a magic marker.

I'd personally be interested to know if the wrappers used for sticks like La Riqueza and El Triunfador are "treated" at all. They wrappers look amazing, but they are not as dark as others I've seen (like the Padron 80th) so I'd think maybe not. Though it would not lessen my enjoyment if I found out that they were.

Treated can also just mean that the maddies are "cooked" longer in the fermentation process which naturally causes a darker wrapper. However, it is hard to believe with Padron that they do anything to their wrapper as you can barely tell the difference between the naturals and the maddies. What was you source for that article?

 

[Angry Bill]

RP cigars suck imho. But, different smokes for different folks.

 

[Gordy]

Sounds like someones got a case of the mondays....

 

[Pendaboot]

Maduro wrapper is made by a bunch of different fermentation and treatment processes that the makers keep secret, and the families that hold those secrets keep them close to the vest. I prefer naturals anyway, but a fine maduro is a fine cigar. I do not allow scuttlebut about dyes or anything else stop me. If the cigar is from a reputable laker, I will try it, and if I like it, I do not care what secret sauce they used to make me a fine smoke.

If the color comes off on me, that's going too far. But I will not let rumors slow down my enjoyment of fine cigars. And RP, while I dislike the man himself, mostly because he is one of the few makers who does not allow his rollers to smoke while they work, makes some fine smokes. At least that's what my taste buds tell me.
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