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Here they come again, democrats are on the attack and we will suffer. Get ready to kiss freebies goodbye...

Government Passes Tobacco Marketing Regulations

Barring an eleventh hour surprise, President Obama is expected to sign ground-breaking legislation that would allow the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) broad regulatory powers over the manufacturing, marketing and distribution of tobacco products. If it becomes law, the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act would greatly restrict tobacco companies from advertising to children and teenagers. "It is a life-saving act for the millions of Americans, especially the young, who will be spared a lifetime of addiction and premature death," said Senator Ted Kennedy, the main sponsor of the legislation, in a statement.

Last week, Congress passed the bill with strong support, despite continuing lobbying efforts from a segment of the tobacco industry. In a controversial inclusion, the legislation targets both cigarettes and increasingly popular smokeless tobacco products. One of the chief opponents of the bill, Senator Richard Burr of tobacco-rich North Carolina, argues the legislation is counter-productive. "If the goal is to reduce mortality rates, then it makes no sense to keep higher-risk products, like cigarettes, on store shelves at the expense of offering lower-risk alternatives to consumers," Burr said, in a statement.
Specifically, the act prohibits the outdoor marketing of tobacco products near schools, bans tobacco-brand sponsorships of sports and entertainment events and limits the scope of tobacco-related advertising in stores and in certain publications. In addition, companies will no longer be allowed to offer free giveaways of non-tobacco products (ie, any gift-with-purchase promotion) with the purchase of a tobacco product.

Because the bill so clearly restricts advertising, it is expected that marketing associations and possibly tobacco companies will challenge the legitimacy of the pending law on First Amendment grounds. A similar Massachusetts tobacco advertising ban was struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2001, which ruled the law was too broad.

Obama has said he hopes to sign the bill into law soon, although no date has been set. The advertising and marketing restrictions would go into effect one year after the bill becomes law.
 

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Here they come again, democrats are on the attack and we will suffer. Get ready to kiss freebies goodbye...

Government Passes Tobacco Marketing Regulations

Barring an eleventh hour surprise, President Obama is expected to sign ground-breaking legislation that would allow the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) broad regulatory powers over the manufacturing, marketing and distribution of tobacco products. If it becomes law, the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act would greatly restrict tobacco companies from advertising to children and teenagers. "It is a life-saving act for the millions of Americans, especially the young, who will be spared a lifetime of addiction and premature death," said Senator Ted Kennedy, the main sponsor of the legislation, in a statement.

Last week, Congress passed the bill with strong support, despite continuing lobbying efforts from a segment of the tobacco industry. In a controversial inclusion, the legislation targets both cigarettes and increasingly popular smokeless tobacco products. One of the chief opponents of the bill, Senator Richard Burr of tobacco-rich North Carolina, argues the legislation is counter-productive. "If the goal is to reduce mortality rates, then it makes no sense to keep higher-risk products, like cigarettes, on store shelves at the expense of offering lower-risk alternatives to consumers," Burr said, in a statement.
Specifically, the act prohibits the outdoor marketing of tobacco products near schools, bans tobacco-brand sponsorships of sports and entertainment events and limits the scope of tobacco-related advertising in stores and in certain publications. In addition, companies will no longer be allowed to offer free giveaways of non-tobacco products (ie, any gift-with-purchase promotion) with the purchase of a tobacco product.

Because the bill so clearly restricts advertising, it is expected that marketing associations and possibly tobacco companies will challenge the legitimacy of the pending law on First Amendment grounds. A similar Massachusetts tobacco advertising ban was struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2001, which ruled the law was too broad.

Obama has said he hopes to sign the bill into law soon, although no date has been set. The advertising and marketing restrictions would go into effect one year after the bill becomes law.
I sent him an email today thanking him for his fight!
 

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Lame I just got a sweet creditcard sized bottle opener in a pack of Camel lights. They were'nt for, but I kept the bottle opener. I think I have 2 acctually. Anybody want it if I find it?
 

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So, exactly what is so bad about this bill? That you don't get a free hat with your Macanudos? Or that the FDA can now regulate exactly what chemicals tobacco companies can put put in their product?

Actually, I'd like to here from someone in the business, like Pete Johnson, and get their take on how this would affect the marketing, distribution and or sales of their cigars.
 
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"bans tobacco-brand sponsorships of sports and entertainment events"

Now the government wants to tell them how they can and can't spend their own money! :dunno:
 

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"bans tobacco-brand sponsorships of sports and entertainment events"

Now the government wants to tell them how they can and can't spend their own money! :dunno:
So, do you want YOUR kids attending events sponsored by Camel and Marlboro?

Let's be honest, this law is aimed at ending the promotion of cigarettes towards kids, and regulating the chemicals that tobacco companies deliberately put in their cigarettes.
 

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So, do you want YOUR kids attending events sponsored by Camel and Marlboro?

Let's be honest, this law is aimed at ending the promotion of cigarettes towards kids, and regulating the chemicals that tobacco companies deliberately put in their cigarettes.
but like any government plan, they'll take their "moral attitude" laws and expand them to take over as much as they can.
 
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The FDA has done an excellent job at keeping tainted Chinese consumer products and pharmaceuticals out of our country, why not add some more to their plate.
 
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The FDA has done an excellent job at keeping tainted Chinese consumer products and pharmaceuticals out of our country, why not add some more to their plate.
How did we not see this coming?

I mean it wasn't that long ago when there was the big outrage over the
"Winston Cup" and the big deal about "Joe Camel"

When I was a kid, I thought Joe Camel was cool!! It did not make me want to smoke one bit... nor did rooting for Earnhardt Sr. in the Winston make me wanna run to 7-11 for a pack of smokes.
 
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So, do you want YOUR kids attending events sponsored by Camel and Marlboro?

Let's be honest, this law is aimed at ending the promotion of cigarettes towards kids, and regulating the chemicals that tobacco companies deliberately put in their cigarettes.

Missin the point...its the "camel's" nose in the tent, so to speak....everyone knows its the first step in a broader regulatory scheme...do we really trust the govt not to get to the point where they simply say that tobacco is a dangerous product and take it from there....do we really want to trust them whith regulating our enjoyment of cigars and all that goes with it...do we really want to live in a world where the govt decides wha tis good for us.....they always use the "children" as a wedge to open doors we would not otherwise let them open.........IMHO....
 

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So, do you want YOUR kids attending events sponsored by Camel and Marlboro?

Let's be honest, this law is aimed at ending the promotion of cigarettes towards kids, and regulating the chemicals that tobacco companies deliberately put in their cigarettes.
This law is another attempt by the government to control what we as free people can and cannot do. It takes away free speech of the companies to sponser events or give out freebies. It aims to tell us as citizens that we should not smoke. As for kids attending events sponsered by any company, it is the parent's job to teach a kid what is right or wrong, not the government. Why would anyone want to put thier kids fate in the hands of the government?

As for the FDA controlling tobacco, well thats just a joke. They are doing such a lousy job now with what they have lets pile more on top.
 

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This law is another attempt by the government to control what we as free people can and cannot do. It takes away free speech of the companies to sponser events or give out freebies. It aims to tell us as citizens that we should not smoke. As for kids attending events sponsered by any company, it is the parent's job to teach a kid what is right or wrong, not the government. Why would anyone want to put thier kids fate in the hands of the government?

As for the FDA controlling tobacco, well thats just a joke. They are doing such a lousy job now with what they have lets pile more on top.
I understand that, and I think the marketing portion of the bill will be challenged in court. And it certainly DOES tell us what we shouldn't smoke, just like the FDA tells us we shouldn't drink poison, or that our meat packing industries don't cut their product with rat meat, that our food is SAFE to eat. Not that smoking is safe, but have you actually seen how cigarettes are treated before they goes into a pack?

Sure, the FDA has screwed up in the past, and there is suggestion of possible collusion with Big Pharm, but to even suggest getting rid of the only safeguard we have is ludicrous.
 
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