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I have one I've been holding onto for about a year now - shaved off the cap at one point, draws real nice - couldn't put flame to it... yet...

The few I've had were mild-medium, but good flavor...
 
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After El Nino hit the region in 97-98, the normal rainfall declined. Obviously, there were the usual hurricanes that hit the region, but for the most part the mineral composition was changed due to a semi drought. IMO this is the reason why most cigars during that time taste inferior.
 

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After El Nino hit the region in 97-98, the normal rainfall declined. Obviously, there were the usual hurricanes that hit the region, but for the most part the mineral composition was changed due to a semi drought. IMO this is the reason why most cigars during that time taste inferior.
That's very interesting, I took the next step and pulled up the weather data from a historical stand point & compared it to the reported cuban crops. Ran the data using excel, finding the statistical data , I figure there was a high percentage of correlation between the heavy rains and hurricanes to effect the ability for a roller to roll with the tobacco they were given.
 
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That's very interesting, I took the next step and pulled up the weather data from a historical stand point & compared it to the reported cuban crops. Ran the data using excel, finding the statistical data , I figure there was a high percentage of correlation between the heavy rains and hurricanes to effect the ability for a roller to roll with the tobacco they were given.
I agree that you statistics for 97-98 show that. However, after 98, the average rainfall was lowered by 37.57%. When a soil doesn't receive the appropriate moisture, the mineral content tweaks both the a taste and the pliability of the leaf.
 

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I agree that you statistics for 97-98 show that. However, after 98, the average rainfall was lowered by 37.57%. When a soil doesn't receive the appropriate moisture, the mineral content tweaks both the a taste and the pliability of the leaf.
I found an error related to year 98', using the 37.57% change in the mathematical computation, I think you are right. The mineral contain in soil are deeply "tweaked" .
 
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I found an error related to year 98', using the 37.57% change in the mathematical computation, I think you are right. The mineral contain in soil are deeply "tweaked" .
Based upon my research, I would love to find some 98 Partagas or Cohibas. With the ratio between the Lithium and the soil water content, I believe these cigars could be one of the greatest crops in the last 127 years.
 

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After El Nino hit the region in 97-98, the normal rainfall declined. Obviously, there were the usual hurricanes that hit the region, but for the most part the mineral composition was changed due to a semi drought. IMO this is the reason why most cigars during that time taste inferior.
The usual hurricanes was only Michellein 2001 in that time, for nor 1999, neither 2000 gave Cuba a hurricane (1998 gave them Georges, and 2002 gave them Isidore and Lili). Besides, Cuba has had soil composition problems since the Revolution triumphed; given that after this, only 13% of the land was reforested, reason why much of the island is desertified now (deforestation raises erosion speed, which includes loss of top soil).
In the 80's they made up for that with a supply of chemical fertilizer supplied by the U.S.S.R.; yet, once it fell, so did Cuba's fertilizer supplies.
Taking all this into considerationI did a search and got this, which would explain the bad "harvests" those years:

Between 1998 and 2002 the total area of Cuba under cultivation, including sugar cane, averaged 2.5 million hectares per year and only 25 to 30 percent received chemical fertilizers.
This would explain the lack of soil fertility.

Organic fertilizers and bio-fertilizers were applied to mitigate the loss in fertility. Farmers developed the use of compost and worm humus, pointed out Dr. Abilio Cardenas, director of the National Soil Institute.
And this how later crops were saved

Source: http://www.granma.cu/
 
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Moro,

Obviously you are well informed. Wigwam and I have been fucking with everybody. we made that shit up and we wanted to see people said.

Remember, we are just smoking cigars.
 

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Based upon my research, I would love to find some 98 Partagas or Cohibas. With the ratio between the Lithium and the soil water content, I believe these cigars could be one of the greatest crops in the last 127 years.
Too much water makes the plant mellow; for it dilutes its contents, mate. Though:
a)How does Lithium afect tobacco?
b)Wouldn't ye need a balance in all minerals, and not just Lithium and water?
c)Too much minerals get a plant stiff as well.
 
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