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    Hi Everyone, as mentioned in my introduction post, BOTL needs quite a bit of updating, patching and whatever else I might come across. Over time BOTL may be unreachable on occasion as I do migrations or updates, etc. Just be patient - we'll be back! I'll generally try to keep these maintenances until later in the evenings.

I've been thinking about this plume thing.

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I have a couple of questions for you experienced guys about plume.
1. From what I have read here through searching it appears that this is just an indication that the cigar was stored properly. So does having plume vs not having it give the cigar a diferent flavor? To clarify for those who like to be very specific - two cigars, same manufacture, same age, one with plume, one with out. What is the diference when smoked?
2. If there is a difference, then why doesen't the manufacturer age the filler leaves until they are plumed and put those inside? That would make the best cigar, no? -assuming they had the time to wait... time is money!

I've only been serious about this cigar thing since September, so I am very new. The Internet is dangerous!
 

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Plume is an indication of a cigar stored properly, However I don't think it really imparts any difference in flavor. It's more of a symptom than the cause (like a yellowed wrapper). Tabacco leaves, wine, cheese, they all benefit from aging and in fact have what's known as 'peaks' - when they have been aged enough, but not too much: a 'peak' of flavor.

The tobacco leaf changes over time, some get strength, some mellow out, but often, an aged cigar will have more complexity & subtlety than a young, oily stick.

Different tobacco reacts differently over time - some cigars just don't get plume. Also, if you handle the cigar enough, it won't develope plume either. It's still a good stick, just doesn't have the crystal coating.

The answers to you last question is that yes - many manufacturers do age the tobacco before and after rolling. Padron anniversary blends use 5-year aged tobacco, this is part of the reason it is expensive, and also the reason that it's widely regarded as a very good cigar.

I hope I helped - I'm sure there are a lot of guys here that could give a better or more scientific explanation.
 

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Well, AJ said it all! One thing though; yes, cigars are often made with aged tobacco; but even the Padron Anniversary: is it done with aged AND PLUMED tobacco? I think they only go for the age there.
 

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I've never heard of leaf being stored to make cigars getting plume, I think they likely handle it so much during inspection, sorting and the like it never gets a chance to sit still long enough to have a chance.
 

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Thanks for you input. Gotcha on answer 2. I was aware of the ageing/fermentation, that's part of the process. From your response, I can rephrase my question to a yes or no "Is plume an indication of peak flavor?" I would like to know everyone's theory and actual experience.
 

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Well, AJ said it all! One thing though; yes, cigars are often made with aged tobacco; but even the Padron Anniversary: is it done with aged AND PLUMED tobacco? I think they only go for the age there.
Exactly Moro! store the tobacco until it plumes (if that is indeed the best) then use that tobacco as the filler.
 

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Mitch - I agree that the handling probably prevents the developement of plume.

As far as the questions "Is plume an indication of peak flavor?" - My vote is simple...
No.

Plume is an indication of the natural oils rising to the outer surface of the leaf. Flavor developes and changes continuously.

I say this because I've tasted cigars that mellowed out drastically withing 6 months...
I've also had a stick that was supposedly 'mild', but after 60 years of age, it had a real heavy 'kick' to it.

Just my $.02.
 

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That's it? No other theories? Then why is everyone so happy when their cigars have plume? I saw a picture of some here and they did look BEAUTIFUL, but if the smoke isn't good, what's the point?
 

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That's it? No other theories? Then why is everyone so happy when their cigars have plume? I saw a picture of some here and they did look BEAUTIFUL, but if the smoke isn't good, what's the point?
It is good. It proves the cigar is not only aged, but well aged.
 
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