Jane Fondas

[caudio51]

I don't know anything about the situation back in the 70's but is there any truth to the below?

She really was a traitor
>
>A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
>KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
>
>
>This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do
>not remember, and didn't have to bear the
>burden that our fathers, mothers and older
>brothers and sisters had to bear.
>
>Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
>"100 Women of the Century"
>BY BARBRA WALTERS
>
>Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
>countless others have never known how Ms.
>Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country,
>but specific men who served and sacrificed
>during Vietnam.
>
>The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot
>The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat
>In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
>Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
>the "Hanoi Hilton."
>
>Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
>cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
>ordered to describe for a visiting American
>"Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
>treatment" he'd received.
>
>He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was
>dragged away.
>During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
>on to the camp Commandant's feet, which
>sent that officer berserk.
>
>In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
>double vision (which permanently ended his
>flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
>application of a wooden baton.
> >From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the

>47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
>"Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his
>family only knew he was "missing in action".
>His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
>His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
>clothed routine in preparation for a
>"peace delegation" visit.
>They, however, had time and devised a plan to
>get word to the world that they were alive
>and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny
>piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
>on it, in the palm of his hand.
>
>When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
>cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
>man's hand and asking little encouraging
>snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed
>babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
>treatment from your benevolent captors?"
>Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
>palmed her their sliver of paper.
>She took them all without missing a beat. At the
>end of the line and once the camera stopped
>rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
>she turned to the officer in charge and handed
>him all the little pieces of paper.
>
>Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
>Colonel Carrigan was almost number four
>but he survived, which is the only reason we
>know of her actions that day.
>
>I was a civilian economic development advisor
>in Vietnam, and was captured by the North
>Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
>1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.
>
>I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
>year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year
>in a "black box" in Hanoi.
>My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
>poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
>nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
>Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the
>Cambodian border.
>At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
>(My normal weight is 170 lbs.)
>
>We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
>
>When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
>the camp communist political officer if I would
>be willing to meet with her.
>
>I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
>treatment we POWs received... and how
>different it was from the treatment purported by
>the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
>"humane and lenient."
>
> Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
>floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
>with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
>and beaten with a bamboo cane.
>
>I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
>soon after I was released. I asked her
>if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
>She never did answer me.
>
>These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
>someone who should be honored as part
>of "100 Years of Great Women."
>Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women"
>should never include a traitor whose hands are
>covered with the blood of so many patriots.
>
>There are few things I have strong visceral
>reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
>blatant treason, is one of them.
>Please take the time to forward to as many
>people as you possibly can.
>It will eventually end up on her computer and
>she needs to know that we will never forget.
>RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
>716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
>Maintenance
>DSN: 875-6431
>COMM: 883-6343​

 

[pharmgator]

Hanoi Jane is a traitor, and she shold have been hanged long ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanoi_Jane

 

[Kingston]

The POW/paper story is bunk:
http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp

Her unconscionable actions during the war are very true.
There's protest which is fine,
there's dissent which is fine,
and then there's posing for pictures on a anti-aircraft gun that probably shot down one of our planes, unforgivable.

 

[Neuromancer]

The POW/paper story is bunk:
http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp

Her unconscionable actions during the war are very true.
There's protest which is fine,
there's dissent which is fine,
and then there's posing for pictures on a anti-aircraft gun that probably shot down one of our planes, unforgivable.

The POW story may be bunk, but she was still a fucking traitor and if the Sedition Act that was passed for WWI had been active during Vietnam she would have been hung, or at the very least jailed for her actions...you couldn't pay me to see one of her movies...:argh:

 

[indyrob]

In todays current events, it would be the same thing if she went and hung out w/ Al Qaeda.

It's a shame we ever let her return to the US after her stunt in Viet Nam.

 

[Kingston]

The POW story may be bunk, but she was still a fucking traitor and if the Sedition Act that was passed for WWI had been active during Vietnam she would have been hung, or at the very least jailed for her actions...you couldn't pay me to see one of her movies...:argh:

Well, she wouldn't have been hung, since the max penalty was 20years and a 10k fine.
The Sedition Act was bad law and it was a good thing it was repealed a few years later.
The public has judged her actions, and judged her harshly (rightly so).
What she did was horrible, it's one thing to protest the war but actully visting the enemy? Unbeleivable.
I'd rather the public impose punishment on her, then the govt pass speech restricting laws.
I can't think of any movies she did that I've seen except for Barberella (1968).

 

[Texas Cop]

The only punishment for treason during time of war is death...


drew

 

[Fox]

As a veteran of the war in question, I will only say that her actions were despicable and I hold her in the lowest possible esteem. . .

 

[MangoMike]

Like Fox, and others, I served during Viet Nam, and for many years after, 30 in all. There is no argument over the fact that Fonda betrayed her country in a terrible way. To honor her simply shows the arrogance of the media and entertainment industries.

I would love to see her citizenship and right to live in the United States revoked. Let her return to the communist country she so dearly loved.

We have all made mistakes, some of us pretty grevious ones. The Lord's prayer says "as we forgive those who trespass against us". I try to live by this beautiful piece, but I have a very difficult time forgiving Jane Fonda, and child molisters, etc., but I do try.

Mike

 

[smokem94]

I wouldn't walk 5 feet out of my way to piss on her if she were on fire!

 

[CWS]

I wouldn't walk 5 feet out of my way to piss on her if she were on fire!

:thumbsup: Well stated.

 

[DocLogic77]

If that stuff is true she should be tried for treason. That made be ill.

 

[Rank_Tyro]

Fuck Fonda.

 

[tedski]

I wouldn't walk 5 feet out of my way to piss on her if she were on fire!

I would ... however I'd aim for the parts not on fire.