Maryland cigar buyers
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danthebugman
BoM Nov '10
Not yet, thank God. There was some discussion on this a little while ago...
http://www.botl.org/community/forums/showthread.php?t=52097
If I lived in Maryland I would be pissed and I would be calling, e-mailing, petitioning, etc. like mad. I don't expect this law to last long though...how can it :scratchhe.
Dan
http://www.botl.org/community/forums/showthread.php?t=52097
If I lived in Maryland I would be pissed and I would be calling, e-mailing, petitioning, etc. like mad. I don't expect this law to last long though...how can it :scratchhe.
Dan
I can't believe Maryland is doing this and yes it is anti-American. I do however have a hard time believing it is anything other than a than a reaction to all of us avoiding taxes by purchasing through the mail. They are just going after the revenue. This one, as a Virginian hits way to close to home. Please to let your elected officials know that you will not vote for a person that will restrict freedom in this way just to collect a couple of bucks.
thegoldenmackid
Why Can't I be a Lancero?
Spot on.
As "un-American" as it might be for Maryland to do it, most of us don't adhere to our state laws in regards to online purchases. There are also certain online vendors violating the law and still shipping to Maryland, which isn't going to help the situation or more importantly, the residents of Maryland.
Which is worse:
Cigar smokers avoiding taxes or Exxon, GE, etc......hmmmm????
Cigar smokers avoiding taxes or Exxon, GE, etc......hmmmm????
Cigar smokers are not avoiding taxes, they are avoiding ridiculous taxes. When you tax something to death people will find a way around the taxes, if the tax rates were reasonable legislation like this wouldn't exist.
thegoldenmackid
Why Can't I be a Lancero?
By the same logic, if people didn't avoid something like internet sales tax (see Amazon v. New York) we wouldn't have the one's that were just introduced. Maryland is not the first state to do something like this. This is also not the first time tobacco is being targeted under the (likely correct) premise that as long as you have a credit card or P@yP00 account it doesn't matter how old you are, you can get tobacco.
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I'm not opposed to internet sales taxes if kept in line with state sales tax.
I didn't think people under 18 could get a credit card without their parents permission.
thegoldenmackid
Why Can't I be a Lancero?
I agree with you there. This current legislation was part of a rash of anti-smoking/tobacco/cigar legislation that was in the Maryland state congress, only this passed though to my knowledge.
Of course an interesting point, but keep in mind that Exxon, GE, etc are not the villains, but rather the politicians are the real villains.
The corporations you mention have lobbyists donate to our politicians which gives them the privilege of writing the tax code specifically for their own benefit.
The word on the street is that this Maryland law was pushed by a tobacconist in Cockeysville.
As for myself, it's just another example of the draconian laws drafted by this state in order to harass its citizens. Sad fact is that it doesn't help B&M shops, it just deprives law-abiding citizens of the ability to order rare, unavailable in Maryland cigars.
It's a shame that narrow-minded, customer unfriendly tobacconists think that laws such as these will help their business. Maryland itself is a small state that is bordered by DC, VA, PA & DE - all places with tobacconists without restrictive taxation and all within driving distance.
Afterall, Holt's in Philly is only two hours from Baltimore and DE has no sales tax.
As for myself, it's just another example of the draconian laws drafted by this state in order to harass its citizens. Sad fact is that it doesn't help B&M shops, it just deprives law-abiding citizens of the ability to order rare, unavailable in Maryland cigars.
It's a shame that narrow-minded, customer unfriendly tobacconists think that laws such as these will help their business. Maryland itself is a small state that is bordered by DC, VA, PA & DE - all places with tobacconists without restrictive taxation and all within driving distance.
Afterall, Holt's in Philly is only two hours from Baltimore and DE has no sales tax.
This reminds me of a story that a guy in our cigar clubs likes to tell. He works over seas a lot and upon traveling to China a few years ago he stayed in a nice hotel. After checking in he went down to the lobby and sat down. He was greeted by a nice waiter and he ordered a drink. He took out a cigar he brought with him and asked if he could smoke in the lobby. The waiter looked at him funny and said, quite matter of fact like, "Of course you can! This is a free country!".
Sad when communist China is more free than the US. :sadcry:
Sad when communist China is more free than the US. :sadcry:
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stephen_hannibal
stephen_hannibal
I know this law had an interesting effect on me seeing as I purchase mostly online.
I heard rumors that it was going to kick in so I bought in bulk prior to it taking effect. Anything I want now I'll have reshipped from somewhere/someone else.
What I will not do is go to a b&m now. I will not support laws like these by giving them my tax dollars.
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I heard rumors that it was going to kick in so I bought in bulk prior to it taking effect. Anything I want now I'll have reshipped from somewhere/someone else.
What I will not do is go to a b&m now. I will not support laws like these by giving them my tax dollars.
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