Pete, thanks for clarifiying. Tegu, I apologize to you for not believing that this was a cab maduro lancero. Also tells me i got screwed on my two most recent boxes of El Triunfador's. It's amazing how a C.A. article will make a price skyrocket. I may have to reconsider this 5'er deal, I don't want it to be unfair to anyone at all and I am certainly not trying to get myself involved in any kind of negativity associated with Tatuaje/El Triunfador/Pete. I guess i will leave it this way for now: See what you can find out there, try newhavanacigars.com or bigeasycigars.com. I don't know of any other surefire bets for these sticks. If you can't find the sticks elsewhere i will gladly sell them, but I can't sell these and lose money, so the price of 57.50 will have to stay....sorry all, wish i got a better deal. My first box was much cheaper but I am not selling that one. Pete, do you have specific internet retailers that your refer people to? I know Dan at New Havana and I have spoken with Eric at BigEasy but other than those two i am not aware of any internet retailer with access to your products like the two mentioned? Sorry to all for any misleading or confusing info you may have gotten from me, i write what i read about and hear from others. Amazing how rumors form so quickly.