Need a bit of help....

[BrooksW]

Hello all!

Ok, I am doing some research on a certain topic for a post, and need a bit of help with examples...

The post is going to be about how the classic Vitolas sizing has been degraded over the years, and examples of such...

For example, a Robusto is classically thought of as being 4 7/8 to 5 inches long and having a RG of 50...however, the La Tradicion Cubana "Corona Gorda" is measured at 6x50...

Anyone else have any examples of such?

Thanks

~brooks

 

[earful]

Someone mentioned that a lot of modern 'lanceros' are actually panatela size of 40+ ring gauge.

 

[terrantheman]

This is a good one Brooks! God it seems to happen all the time with bigger ring gauges becoming more and more popular.

 

[kockroach]

How about how certain magazines that review cigars by specific size (i.e. robusto, corona gorda) just lump in anything that is close.

I hardly ever see a true Corona Gorda (5 5/8 x 46) in the "Corona Gorda" category. A cigar that is 6x54 is NOT a Corona Gorda!

I feel that the magazines' laziness is perpetuating this degradation.

 

[Thegreekone]

How about how certain magazines that review cigars by specific size (i.e. robusto, corona gorda) just lump in anything that is close.

I hardly ever see a true Corona Gorda (5 5/8 x 46) in the "Corona Gorda" category. A cigar that is 6x54 is NOT a Corona Gorda!

I feel that the magazines' laziness is perpetuating this degradation.

I have to agree here. Especially since people who are new place more stock in magazines and TRUST them.

How can you trust a "certain" magazine that gives the LP "pig" an 83 and lumps sizes together to the point of being capricious?

The CC sites are a good way to learn about classic sizes and gives one a reference to how things have changed.

 

[Simoun]

I think Padróns are the perfect example of this vitola "recategorization." I love their sticks, don't get me wrong, but their classifications are very nontraditional.

 

[thegoldenmackid]

Lanceros are a big one...

6 7/8 x 40 is becoming the norm, thanks Pepin. lol.

However, I'm not sure if Lancero is considered a classic vitola.

 

[eric_f]

I'm listening to see where this thread goes :grin:

 

[BrooksW]

I need specific cigar examples people! LOL!

Thanks so far!

~brooks

 

[tandblov]

The Padron 46 is not even remotely close to the corona gorda size it is "labeled" as.

 

[megladon8]

I read an article in a cigar magazine recently that talked about this trend of everything turning to bigger RG's.

I don't like it.

I find a significant amount of flavour comes from the wrapper, and the larger the RG, the less of that flavour you get.

 

[W.B.]

Nearly every churchill, instead of 7x47 the usually end up 7x50
Even from the beloved Cuban himself Pepin
DPG Blue
My Father Le Bijou

 

[thegoldenmackid]

Double Corona is laughable...

Traditional: 7 5/8 x 49
Altadis: 6 1/4 x 50-52; 6 3/4 x 48
Arturo Fuente: 6 1/2 x 46; 6 3/4 x 50; 7 3/4 x 50
Ashton: 7 x 50-52
AVO: 7 x 50
Berger & Argenti: 7 5/8 x 54
CAO: 7 1/2 x 54
Davidoff: 7 1/2 x 50
General: 6 3/4 x 48; 7 1/4-1/2 x 54
Gran Habano: 7 x 48-50
La Aurora: 7 1/2 x 50
La Riqueza: Right Size
LFD: 7 x 50
Los Blancos: 7 x 52
Opus: Right Size
Pinar Del Rio: 6 1/4 x 54
Pepin: Correct
Perdomo: 7 5/8 x 50
Rocky Patel: 7 1/2 x 50-52
Zino: 7 1/2 x 52

 

[srduggins]

The RyJ Short and Wide "Churchill" come to mind immediately. Is that what you are looking for?

 

[Fourtotheflush]

MOW Ruination I think is the best example of this! They make two Robusto sizes, #1 & #2.