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We had some monsoon weather as of late a few weeks agoan an my humidor shot up to 80% humidity, I was out fo town so I had my wife remove all my trays and take them down to storage at the B&M. So missing all my lucious smokes I retrived them and not having seen the trays on the bottom for awhile I discovered the Wonka Golden Ticket. A couple of Tatuaje RC233 had started to plume and man do they look good,
I can't wait to pull the wrappers back, maybe I won the Golden Ticket
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I don't know if I just dick with my smokes too much or if my ideal environment isn't the vacation spot cigars would pay top dollar to grow plume at. All I know is no plume here. Then again, just this year I've started to stock up on smokes so maybe as they sit I'll start getting some.
 

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How old are those cigars? Sticks stored loose, especially if handled now and then just about never developed plume. With your spike in humidity and those being foil wrapped, I'd look real close and make sure it's not the start of mold. Mold usually starts in colonies, but I have seen it form an even sheet as well. I sure hope that is the winning ticket and nothing else?

And those are some fine sticks, I've had the Tat and am going to kill four of the Dos forbidden X this weekend at my 40th Birthday party with friends.
 
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and they don't work either. crap. if you cut and paste the link, the pics show up. i guess they don't want me posting their pics elsewhere.
 

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Marccote must have watched Willy Wonka last night. It was on at my house. Love the older one much better than the new one.

i can only imagine watching it all tripped out. that's one i missed out on during my crazy days.
 
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So...the humidity spikes and you discover "plume". Brother that isn't plume. That is mold. Plume is alot more rare than people think. Wipe those off...and watch your humidity for awhile. Personally, I believe 70% is too high even for NCs. Try to keep your humidor at about 68% for awhile. I would also check every box for "plume" and wipe em down.
 

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Fellas, I think we're being baited into this discussion.....

First he posts up the painfully obvious double-triple-fake "Cubans", and now he posts up these pics of high-humidity induced "Plume" on his cigars.

This guy runs a CIGAR MAGAZINE (as it were)....you'd think he, of all people, would know real-vs-fake cubans and mold-vs-plume.

I refuse to get baited into this conversation this time around.
 

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Fellas, I think we're being baited into this discussion.....

First he posts up the painfully obvious double-triple-fake "Cubans", and now he posts up these pics of high-humidity induced "Plume" on his cigars.

This guy runs a CIGAR MAGAZINE (as it were)....you'd think he, of all people, would know real-vs-fake cubans and mold-vs-plume.

I refuse to get baited into this conversation this time around.


You may be right, but that would erase all credibility he had as an editor of a cigar magazine. Why would you do that on purpose?


Either way...Dust off the mold, and smoke those tats, before that stuff spreads to those smokes next door.
 

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Well never have I ever seen white mold before but there you go, so thank you Ambassadors once again for selling me mold ridden sticks, i took my time and took the wrapper back and no golden ticket, they are clean underneath the wrapper so I would have to admit MOLD for sure, I then compared it to a Ashton that was pluming and they are surely different, So this is the second time that i have received moldy smokes from Ambassadors ( a box of Sopranos I received had green mold and then ended up releasing bugs, he woudlnt take them back either) , I think I got these about 6 months ago and they have been on the bottom and havnt noticed them for all this time didnt look like this when I put them in, of course I may not have had my glasses on, so here is a good shot I guess for comparison, mold on the tat and plume on the ashton, thte tats look much better now i took a wet paper towel and wiped them down adn putting in another humidor for now, and no worries about my humidor it is pretty safe in there 70degrees /66 humidity is where it is set at





So...the humidity spikes and you discover "plume". Brother that isn't plume. That is mold. Plume is alot more rare than people think. Wipe those off...and watch your humidity for awhile. Personally, I believe 70% is too high even for NCs. Try to keep your humidor at about 68% for awhile. I would also check every box for "plume" and wipe em down.
 

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I'm not even so sure about the "plume' on the Ashton either. I don't think it's mold, but it's strange looking plume.

ALthough i must admit, the whole "plume" thing has always been a bit of a mystery to me anyhow. i know what it is, and i know how it's formed and i know all about it, but actually being able to discern it when i see it has alway sbeen difficult to me.

For example, when some of you guys get that Waldo box pass, check out that Dunhill green label in it. I've described the tiny golden flecks all over the cigar itself as plume. I attributed their golden glitter like quality to the fact that the cigar has been trapped in that cello for at least 10 years, most likely many more than that from the looks of it. Plume is a crystal and i assume the fact that the "plume" is gold like it is because the oils in the cigar have migrated to the outside of the cigar, but have not been in contact with the air, due to the cello and being trapped inside that box for all those years, and since it has not been airified, it retains the gold flake appearance as opposed to the whitish more tradiaitonal plume appearance.

I have no idea.

I will say that i can indeed discern mold form plume though. Mold is fuzzy, and i've seen it in shops and ive seen it in my own humidor.


So, whoever gets that Dunhill, take it out of the cello and inspect it for yourself. That gold dust stuff all over it is amazing and it doens't hurt the cigar at all!

You can also see that gold looking through the cello. Check it out!
 
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Fellas, I think we're being baited into this discussion.....

First he posts up the painfully obvious double-triple-fake "Cubans", and now he posts up these pics of high-humidity induced "Plume" on his cigars.

This guy runs a CIGAR MAGAZINE (as it were)....you'd think he, of all people, would know real-vs-fake cubans and mold-vs-plume.

I refuse to get baited into this conversation this time around.
You do have a point.
 

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I have seen that on cigars but usually attirbuted to the Gold label, I have seen plume on lots of cigars and it has alwasy been white, i have a few photos stored away somwhere, from what I understand plume is when the oils from the tobacco release towards the wrapper and start drying as they reach the wrapper because of reaching air and start to crystalize on the wrapper in a white crystally format. Usually the darker maduro type cigars seem to plume the most, I have a friend who buys a box of anejos every year and he has a box form about 3 or more years ago that are just covered in plume, when you take the cedar off it looks like it has been wiped down with a coated sugar like, it was a very strong smoke, I once saw at a local shop some cigars that plumed so much adn went undiscovered that all the plume had stuck to the wrapper, i am sure the cigars were great but a lot fo the oils had been absorbed and removed onto the wrapper.
I do know that I find them little gold crystals on some Greycliffs quite often but they have the gold label and attributed it to that, as far as the Dunhill goes I couldnt tell you, if it has a green label

I'm not even so sure about the "plume' on the Ashton either. I don't think it's mold, but it's strange looking plume.

ALthough i must admit, the whole "plume" thing has always been a bit of a mystery to me anyhow. i know what it is, and i know how it's formed and i know all about it, but actually being able to discern it when i see it has alway sbeen difficult to me.

For example, when some of you guys get that Waldo box pass, check out that Dunhill green label in it. I've described the tiny golden flecks all over the cigar itself as plume. I attributed their golden glitter like quality to the fact that the cigar has been trapped in that cello for at least 10 years, most likely many more than that from the looks of it. Plume is a crystal and i assume the fact that the "plume" is gold like it is because the oils in the cigar have migrated to the outside of the cigar, but have not been in contact with the air, due to the cello and being trapped inside that box for all those years, and since it has not been airified, it retains the gold flake appearance as opposed to the whitish more tradiaitonal plume appearance.

I have no idea.

I will say that i can indeed discern mold form plume though. Mold is fuzzy, and i've seen it in shops and ive seen it in my own humidor.


So, whoever gets that Dunhill, take it out of the cello and inspect it for yourself. That gold dust stuff all over it is amazing and it doens't hurt the cigar at all!

You can also see that gold looking through the cello. Check it out!
 

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I'm doubtful the Ashton is plume either. When you get plume it's not in one small spot on the cigar. I've heard of plants that were over fertilized ending up with conditions that will cause specs, even in an ash when it burns, but never a line like that. It looks like it's a raised area along a crease, so I'm tempted to think it came into contact with something.

Marccote, I understand why some of the brothers are questioning your legitimacy, not to rag on you, but I couldn't help but notice your spelling and grammar as an editor is a bit off center. I don't know if you've come here with an agenda or just to share and learn about a passion, but I'll tell you this. I don't consider myself a slouch when it comes to knowing cigars, but I am very careful about making declarative statements in here, because the knowledge and experience on this board can leave you humbled. I find it hard to point out something as simple as "No, that is quite obviously mold" because you've set yourself up as an expert with the fancy title. I hope you choose to lose the title and just be yourself around here, you would be surprised at whom some of our members are, but they don't flaunt it.

Now, a little jab, because we are all friends here and I want to be able to talk to you like any other brother, with a bit of fun and the understanding that it's fare to jab back with a kind heart.

Dude, your B&M is ripping you off, you posted fake Cubans and mold as plum. It's not positive advertising for your magazine at this point anyway.

Smoke a good one and I'd lower the temp from 70 if it were me, I like closer to 65 to prevent mold and beetles, with no ill effect on the cigars. I'd also check your humidity with a calibrated hygrometer, to make sure you are not above 70% but don't realize it.
 
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