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Agree. Great cutterPalio
I've cut well over a thousand cigars with my Palio and have the exact opposite opinion of its build and sharpness of cut. Curious do you own both xikars and Palios? Your one if the only people Ive heard here say Palios are not very sharp and not accurate....Xikar for me,
Disappointed with the build quality and cut on the Palio...
Also as the xikar is spring loaded, the slight resistance when cutting gives more control.
Also the Palio is a very thick cutter, I think this is very unnecessary but the thickness was added so the cutter can be used as a cigar rest which for me is completely pointless. This extra thickness makes it very difficult to gauge where the cut should be on smaller cigars.
100% of the cigars I smoke are cuban, but because I live in Ireland I am restricted to smoking small cigars in the winter months, half coronas or smaller is the norm, because of this I need a very precise but versatile cutter, not to mention hella sharp.
Xikar xi series ticks all the boxes, I own two of them. And I will be placing an order for an x8 next month.
If your cutting cigars with a ring gauge of 48+ the Palio should serve you ok, but cleanliness of cut is extremely important remember.
Just my two cents
I have the carbon fibre palio as well as the xikar xi1 and xi2, as mentioned above i intend on buying the xikar x8 shortly. I have cut the same if not more than 1000 cigars using all 3 models.I've cut well over a thousand cigars with my Palio and have the exact opposite opinion of its build and sharpness of cut. Curious do you own both xikars and Palios? Your one if the only people Ive heard here say Palios are not very sharp and not accurate....Xikar for me,
Disappointed with the build quality and cut on the Palio...
Also as the xikar is spring loaded, the slight resistance when cutting gives more control.
Also the Palio is a very thick cutter, I think this is very unnecessary but the thickness was added so the cutter can be used as a cigar rest which for me is completely pointless. This extra thickness makes it very difficult to gauge where the cut should be on smaller cigars.
100% of the cigars I smoke are cuban, but because I live in Ireland I am restricted to smoking small cigars in the winter months, half coronas or smaller is the norm, because of this I need a very precise but versatile cutter, not to mention hella sharp.
Xikar xi series ticks all the boxes, I own two of them. And I will be placing an order for an x8 next month.
If your cutting cigars with a ring gauge of 48+ the Palio should serve you ok, but cleanliness of cut is extremely important remember.
Just my two cents
Sounds to me like you have purchased a fake cutter. The Palio carbon model is NOT painted plastic. I absolutely love the cut I get from my Palio. Smoke what you want and cut it with what you want. Hell, light it with what you want add well.I have the carbon fibre palio as well as the xikar xi1 and xi2, as mentioned above i intend on buying the xikar x8 shortly. I have cut the same if not more than 1000 cigars using all 3 models.I've cut well over a thousand cigars with my Palio and have the exact opposite opinion of its build and sharpness of cut. Curious do you own both xikars and Palios? Your one if the only people Ive heard here say Palios are not very sharp and not accurate....Xikar for me,
Disappointed with the build quality and cut on the Palio...
Also as the xikar is spring loaded, the slight resistance when cutting gives more control.
Also the Palio is a very thick cutter, I think this is very unnecessary but the thickness was added so the cutter can be used as a cigar rest which for me is completely pointless. This extra thickness makes it very difficult to gauge where the cut should be on smaller cigars.
100% of the cigars I smoke are cuban, but because I live in Ireland I am restricted to smoking small cigars in the winter months, half coronas or smaller is the norm, because of this I need a very precise but versatile cutter, not to mention hella sharp.
Xikar xi series ticks all the boxes, I own two of them. And I will be placing an order for an x8 next month.
If your cutting cigars with a ring gauge of 48+ the Palio should serve you ok, but cleanliness of cut is extremely important remember.
Just my two cents
I know palio has quite the loyal following, but they are just not for me. I am also very skeptical about the claims that its made of a 'composite material' as the carbon fibre one i have is just poorly finished printed plastic.
And as i said above theres the thing about the thickness. A xikar xi1 has a spring loaded and locking mechanism which it manages to fit into a smaller profile than the palio, this for me is a huge plus. One of the smallest cuban cigars is the el rey del mundo demi tasse, which some would call a cigarillo with a cap. A palio cannot cut them. Sinple as. The precision and sharpness of the xikar can.
Please take my above comments with a pinch of salt as all they are is opinions. I am not here to stir the pot or cause upset. Im just being honest.
Stevie
Actually, the palio carbon as well as the camo and burl are a type of applique that covers the standard poly cutter... they've been using the carbon applique in cars and dash kits for years... If it was genuine carbon it would not look that nice, as it would need to be made of prepreg dry carbon, and it would cost 4 times as much...Sounds to me like you have purchased a fake cutter. The Palio carbon model is NOT painted plastic. I absolutely love the cut I get from my Palio. Smoke what you want and cut it with what you want. Hell, light it with what you want add well.I have the carbon fibre palio as well as the xikar xi1 and xi2, as mentioned above i intend on buying the xikar x8 shortly. I have cut the same if not more than 1000 cigars using all 3 models.I've cut well over a thousand cigars with my Palio and have the exact opposite opinion of its build and sharpness of cut. Curious do you own both xikars and Palios? Your one if the only people Ive heard here say Palios are not very sharp and not accurate....Xikar for me,
Disappointed with the build quality and cut on the Palio...
Also as the xikar is spring loaded, the slight resistance when cutting gives more control.
Also the Palio is a very thick cutter, I think this is very unnecessary but the thickness was added so the cutter can be used as a cigar rest which for me is completely pointless. This extra thickness makes it very difficult to gauge where the cut should be on smaller cigars.
100% of the cigars I smoke are cuban, but because I live in Ireland I am restricted to smoking small cigars in the winter months, half coronas or smaller is the norm, because of this I need a very precise but versatile cutter, not to mention hella sharp.
Xikar xi series ticks all the boxes, I own two of them. And I will be placing an order for an x8 next month.
If your cutting cigars with a ring gauge of 48+ the Palio should serve you ok, but cleanliness of cut is extremely important remember.
Just my two cents
I know palio has quite the loyal following, but they are just not for me. I am also very skeptical about the claims that its made of a 'composite material' as the carbon fibre one i have is just poorly finished printed plastic.
And as i said above theres the thing about the thickness. A xikar xi1 has a spring loaded and locking mechanism which it manages to fit into a smaller profile than the palio, this for me is a huge plus. One of the smallest cuban cigars is the el rey del mundo demi tasse, which some would call a cigarillo with a cap. A palio cannot cut them. Sinple as. The precision and sharpness of the xikar can.
Please take my above comments with a pinch of salt as all they are is opinions. I am not here to stir the pot or cause upset. Im just being honest.
Stevie
The flashing you see is present on my cutter as well (and every one I've seen), and I agree that it is not as I would prefer it to be. I've considered honing it myself and coating it just to make it a bit nicer, but then I remember it's a relatively inexpensive tool and let it go... If they offered a hand finished model I imagine they would look much nicer, but then the cost would undoubtedly increase. I've never seen the tooling they use in manufacturing, but based on where the flashing is I wonder if they aren't molded in sheets or connected rows and that is what the material they are removing is due to. Just speculation on my part.Stukibuilt I am just seeing your post and you do indeed make a very valid point.
In relation to the material the cutter is made of I would personally hedge my bets that it is a rigid plastic rather than a sophisticated polymer material.
When I recieved my Palio I was concerned at the amount of flashing along the rails (flashing is excess plastic left after heat moulding) and I contacted Palio who told me this was the norm and that continued use would dissipate it.
Your comments about polymer qualities leads me to believe you know a thing or two and if that was the case then you would know flashing shouldn't happen in engineered polymer castings
May I repeat I'm not here to stir the pot, this is simply a democratic voicing of opinion.