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Trends in Cigar Strength

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From: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/article/20140711075321-57979696-trends-in-cigar-strength

Trends in Cigar Strength

All, here is an article on strength trends in cigars.
http://otherkinbar.wordpress.com/2014/07/08/strength-trends-in-cigar-smoking/ - my photo happened to make it in that article even none of our 4 brands are mentioned!

I will comment on that subject here:

In the late 90's and early 2000's, there was a push for all cigars to become more heavy and strong. Many of those cigars were cigars like Ashton VSG or Padrón, and the onslaught of wannabes that came out later. Partagas released the "fire in your mouth" Partagas Black which was simply dyed black. Cohiba has the red dot which in my opinion was also a total failure. For some reason this generally lead people to the slightly inaccurate idea that strength should be associated with darker color.

Strength is generally determined by breed, and leaf location on the plant. My factory once experimented with a strange crossbreed (at the time of writing I forget the name... something like cs52....) and we eventually had a few names for that cigar. We called it things like "leg breaker", "brain bleeder", etc. When I got my first few sticks handed to me in a ziplock the smell was entirely new. It was pungent, and reminded me of an ammonia pop a doctor might give you if you are about to pass out. I took my first one to a dinner. I ate a massive Italian meal, and lit up just as I started in on desert. After I finished I had jelly legs, and had to hold the staircase railing as I walked down the stairs to leave. (The stories that accompany that cigar, accosting various friends' masculinity because they smoked it while drinking in bars have become legendary.)

In most cases, we generally blend higher cuts referred to as Ligero into the cigar at varying quantities. Since filler of a cigar can easily be up to 5 varieties of either breed, cut, color strength etc, there are a lot of options for blending strength. I have made two "Ultra Ligero" versions of twonon maduro cigars in our PROPIO brand of cigars, called Veneno and Leon. This was in direct response to clients complimenting the taste of those two cigars, but asking for more strength. We also have the well-known Don Cervantes Tres Maduro, which despite having maduro wrapper, binder and maduro in the filler, has yet to be considered strong by almost anyone. I did blend ligero in this cigar, but the age of the ligero is about 20+ years old, and has significantly mellowed with age, leaving a rich sweetness that has left this cigar a real winner.

That being said, Cain and others have made cigar blends with higher percentage rates of ligero to determine strength and they are also not maduro.

As always enjoy what you smoke, and share your thoughts.
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If I remwmber right, Pepin made his Habana Leon with 75% ligero and it was smokable. I have a box of La Flor Dominicana that has considerably less ligero but seems like the viso is deathly strong too. Does La Canela yield stronger crops or have a better strain? I am almost certian that Sr. Garcia tends to his crops to get the perfect crop that he wants the same that Litto does. I would choose what Sr. Garcia grows more than Sr. Gomez does because of that for daily smoking and pick the right time to smoke LfD.

As far as a triple maduro goes, it might be too sweet but having the ligero should put it right into that catagory and profile that I like about LfD. Sweet and spicy, like Tapatio on a mango.

I think for the most part new smokers are used to what was available when they started and did not get to be part of the transition into what the market is now. I actually like what the boutique revolution has done to cigars. It has done more to educate smokers like me than I got in the 90's. There is just so many choices out there now we can choose based on an educated selection, where previously it was just by tobacconists urging.
 
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If I remwmber right, Pepin made his Habana Leon with 75% ligero and it was smokable. I have a box of La Flor Dominicana that has considerably less ligero but seems like the viso is deathly strong too. Does La Canela yield stronger crops or have a better strain? I am almost certian that Sr. Garcia tends to his crops to get the perfect crop that he wants the same that Litto does. I would choose what Sr. Garcia grows more than Sr. Gomez does because of that for daily smoking and pick the right time to smoke LfD.

As far as a triple maduro goes, it might be too sweet but having the ligero should put it right into that catagory and profile that I like about LfD. Sweet and spicy, like Tapatio on a mango.

I think for the most part new smokers are used to what was available when they started and did not get to be part of the transition into what the market is now. I actually like what the boutique revolution has done to cigars. It has done more to educate smokers like me than I got in the 90's. There is just so many choices out there now we can choose based on an educated selection, where previously it was just by tobacconists urging.[/QUOTE

Yes, Rob, but all those choices constitute a double-edged sword. Just how can smokers, like me, on a tighter budget, manage to wade through all those entries- portrayed in catalogues by useless puffery- to find their next "best ever blend?"
For me, the answer is easy.... I just stick with what I already know and forgo the constant quest for something new and different. I see that flood of new entries as a negative...to me it represents the frantic and ultimately fruitless effort to baffle us with smoke-a-likes too similar to discern a significant differences.
Exceptions?? Sure... plenty of newer entries will eventually become classics but the vast majority will end up on closeout or part of a sampler of similar duds.
From my pessimistic comments, you can dismiss me as a complete fuddy-duddy, old f--t, and you might be dead-on in your assesment. My own self-analysis is of a wizened cynic who is rarely disappointed in
my choice of smokes...today's cigar is the same one I chose 10 years ago.
 

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If I remwmber right, Pepin made his Habana Leon with 75% ligero and it was smokable. I have a box of La Flor Dominicana that has considerably less ligero but seems like the viso is deathly strong too. Does La Canela yield stronger crops or have a better strain? I am almost certian that Sr. Garcia tends to his crops to get the perfect crop that he wants the same that Litto does. I would choose what Sr. Garcia grows more than Sr. Gomez does because of that for daily smoking and pick the right time to smoke LfD.

As far as a triple maduro goes, it might be too sweet but having the ligero should put it right into that catagory and profile that I like about LfD. Sweet and spicy, like Tapatio on a mango.

I think for the most part new smokers are used to what was available when they started and did not get to be part of the transition into what the market is now. I actually like what the boutique revolution has done to cigars. It has done more to educate smokers like me than I got in the 90's. There is just so many choices out there now we can choose based on an educated selection, where previously it was just by tobacconists urging.[/QUOTE

Yes, Rob, but all those choices constitute a double-edged sword. Just how can smokers, like me, on a tighter budget, manage to wade through all those entries- portrayed in catalogues by useless puffery- to find their next "best ever blend?"
For me, the answer is easy.... I just stick with what I already know and forgo the constant quest for something new and different. I see that flood of new entries as a negative...to me it represents the frantic and ultimately fruitless effort to baffle us with smoke-a-likes too similar to discern a significant differences.
Exceptions?? Sure... plenty of newer entries will eventually become classics but the vast majority will end up on closeout or part of a sampler of similar duds.
From my pessimistic comments, you can dismiss me as a complete fuddy-duddy, old f--t, and you might be dead-on in your assesment. My own self-analysis is of a wizened cynic who is rarely disappointed in
my choice of smokes...today's cigar is the same one I chose 10 years ago.
AH but then would not everyone just be smoking Monte #2's. You have to keep experimenting or you might miss an incredible smoke.
 

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Listen to your brothers, find unbiased reviews. Learn about the tobaccos that go into the cigars you love and seek out blends similar to your tastes. Educate, educate, educate. Explore and there are endless possibilities of enjoyment. Knowledge is power and knowledge will dramatically help you reduce the riff raff. Find blenders that make cigars you like and follow them....the possibility of finding a cigar you will enjoy increases ten fold, while the amount you have to spend to get there becomes very manageable when you take the time to understand your smoking preferences and make yourself a truly informed connoisseur of the leaf.
 

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Henke Kelner, Benji and Don Pepin are all great blenders but AJ comes up with winners as does Oliva but I dont smoke the last 2 much. Hit and miss? I dont know. I do know what I get in the mood for and yeah...the old dude is right...if it wasnt for that great cornacopia that is the internet we would all smoke Partagas 8-9-8's.
 

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Henke Kelner, Benji and Don Pepin are all great blenders but AJ comes up with winners as does Oliva but I dont smoke the last 2 much. Hit and miss? I dont know. I do know what I get in the mood for and yeah...the old dude is right...if it wasnt for that great cornacopia that is the internet we would all smoke Partagas 8-9-8's.
8-9-8 Varnish Get it right. :peace:
 
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