2017 BOTL Pipe - Shape Discussion & Poll

[jvonier]

The stamping on 2 is in an awkward place. And that green would look better of it wasn't so olive. That maybe just the photo making it look olive.

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[cgraunke]

Something just looks weird about #2. The shape doesn't seem right. Not sure I can explain how though. The stamping seems to be in a strange place as well. I'd expect to see it on the underside of the stem shank, not the underside of the front face.
The stain and, I assume sandblasting, isn't right on #1. The blasting doesn't look deep enough and the stain doesn't seem dark enough. It looks translucent, like some of the briar beneath is showing through. Is it a multi layer stain and I'm just seeing a different color show thru? Almost looks greenish. I have a feeling it looks better in person though. Is that a crack in the stem mortise?
My current preference is still for #1. The shape of #2 just seems off to me. Maybe a little clunky.

We can request a different stamp location on either for the production run.

I think that multi-layer stain look on #1 is intentional, kind of a yellow/green tinge giving an almost weathered look.

That said, colors on both are open for change.

 

[CaptainRon]

Maybe just the way it came across in the pictures. Like I mentioned, I suspect it looks much nicer in person - I generally like the two color staining.

Also, I was being super critical/picky on my critique in the hopes of bringing out more thoughts from the collective.

I do still like the shape of the black one much more than the other. Either way, looking forward to the outcome.

One last thought, I also like a more standard length pipe over a shorter one. I have several shorter ones already and while I do enjoy and smoke them regularly, sometimes the shorter steamed pipes seem to smoke a little hotter to me.

Thanks for all the work on this Clint, it is very well appreciated.

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[cgraunke]

I think the spot that looked like a crack might just be a spot where the wood grain and machine marks from the lathe met just right...

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[cgraunke]

Similar from #2

 

[cgraunke]

Added a side view with ruler to the OP.

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[bwhite220]

PIPE #1

PIPE #2

I like how traditional Pipe 1 looks and will feel while smoking. Not a huge fan of the rustication or color of it though.

Pipe 2 looks like it's trying too hard. That green band reminds me of pond scum, the overall shape is clunky, and I don't like pipes that have 3 different colors.

Just a thought: not sure how hard this would be, but is it possible to make the shape of pipe 1 with the bowl finish of pipe 2? Heck, the stem from pipe 2 might even look good on this hybrid idea. But, definitely no green bands though.

EDIT: I know we all end up settling on a design and buy the pipe but does the maker stamp "BOTL 2017" or something into it? Also, is there a deposit up front? Is there a target date that we are working towards for orders so we ensure this happens in 2017?

 

[thedismaltrade]

Neither are correctly transitioned in the makers application. We'd be better off contacting Briar Works for a properly executed club pipe at this point. If you all want a Rhodesian- here is one for 130$. They are an American factory and finish by hand. I can't and won't pay 225$ for those.
https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/Briarworks/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=254794

 

[Grrrrr609]

Neither are correctly transitioned in the makers application. We'd be better off contacting Briar Works for a properly executed club pipe at this point. If you all want a Rhodesian- here is one for 130$. They are an American factory and finish by hand. I can't and won't pay 225$ for those.
https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/Briarworks/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=254794

Bravo. And that is a gorgeous pipe. I've looked at those.

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[CVAC085]

Neither are correctly transitioned in the makers application. We'd be better off contacting Briar Works for a properly executed club pipe at this point. If you all want a Rhodesian- here is one for 130$. They are an American factory and finish by hand. I can't and won't pay 225$ for those.
https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/Briarworks/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=254794

Damn, that's really nice. I'd like that even more if the shank and stem was a little bit thinner though for some reason the way it is in the pictures just doesn't do it for me. Other than that it would be a huge win in my book.

 

[Highlander]

Woo hoo, I didn't miss this poll!!
I like #2 as I have also like a curved pipe. That being said the stem color just seems a bit wrong. I think if it was a solid it might look better. Maybe a dark brown or black?

 

[cgraunke]

Last call on votes and comments about the pipes in our poll!

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[CaptainRon]

Neither are correctly transitioned in the makers application. We'd be better off contacting Briar Works for a properly executed club pipe at this point. If you all want a Rhodesian- here is one for 130$. They are an American factory and finish by hand. I can't and won't pay 225$ for those.
https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/Briarworks/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=254794

Good thought. Not too shabby looking either.

My local club did one of those. Well moonshine pipes anyway. Didn't get one because I couldn't stand what they picked, but I know they were delivered very quickly and pricing came in under the listed price. For what it's worth.

 

[cgraunke]

Back to the main:
http://www.botl.org/threads/2017-botl-pipe-of-the-year.90172/

 

[ak2000]

Neither are correctly transitioned in the makers application. We'd be better off contacting Briar Works for a properly executed club pipe at this point. If you all want a Rhodesian- here is one for 130$. They are an American factory and finish by hand. I can't and won't pay 225$ for those.
https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/Briarworks/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=254794

Agreed on all points. I too like Briarworks C111 shape, though it would be even better with a saddle stem IMO.