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I've had the AJ 2nds a few times. They are a gamble. Sometimes even when you order the same size the end result is different than the last. 75 percent of the time they smoke great. The other 25% are either okay or good in my opinion. Totally a value and I would recommend to another $ minded BOTL. I hate full price, even when I buy banded.
 
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I have always liked these. Pick up a bundle or 2 every year. To me they look and taste like the Cain Habano robusto and at $25 a bundle it's a hell of a deal.
 

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Anyone order EP Carillo seconds lately? Wondering what they're sending for coronas right now.
 
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The last time I had then was the core maduro, but its been a while.

@Lomey
Did they have a letter code when your ordered them? Iirc, they usually have either an H,M,D or similar. You're probably spot on, though.

@happyidiot
Break those puppies open and try them? They could be a number of cigars. Lezanstar is right, measure those sticks. That's always my first step, then smoke one.
 
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The last time I had then was the core maduro, but its been a while.

@Lomey
Did they have a letter code when your ordered them? Iirc, they usually have either an H,M,D or similar. You're probably spot on, though.

@happyidiot
Break those puppies open and try them? They could be a number of cigars. Lezanstar is right, measure those sticks. That's always my first step, then smoke one.
Yes, they had a H next to them.
 
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I'm already in the "forbidden" overflow storage but i really want to grab a couple of bundles. The Nic Boutique (AJ) and try the Ligero Laced.
 
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Smoked the Nic Botique Lancero, which was actually more of a corona gorda. It's short filler, so not a true "second". My guess would be that it is made up of remaining short filler from one or more of these AJ Fernandez blends:

  • 5 Vegas AAA
  • A.J. Fernandez Fresh-Rolled
  • A. Fernandez Signature Series
  • Ave Maria
  • Ave Maria Divinia
  • Ave Maria Immaculata
  • Ave Maria Reconquista
  • CI Legends Olive Label
  • Diesel
  • Diesel Crucible
  • Diesel Delirium
  • Diesel Grind
  • Diesel Hair of the Dog
  • Diesel Shorty
  • Diesel Uncut
  • Diesel Unholy Cocktail
  • Diesel Unlimited
  • Diesel Wicked
  • Emilio AF-1
  • Emilio AF-2
  • Emilio AF Suave
  • Emilio Carpe Noctum
  • Emilio Mia Dora
  • Est. 1844 Anejado
  • Fallen Angel
  • Graycliff G2 Turbo
  • Gurkha Park Avenue
  • Gurkha Sherpa
  • La Herencia Cubana
  • La Herencia Cubana CORE
  • La Herencia Cubana Oscuro Fuerte
  • ITC 10th Anniversary
  • ITC Signature Summer Blend 2008
  • La Cuna Bin No 85
  • Man O' War
  • Man O' War Armada
  • Man O' War Dark Aged Maduro
  • Man O' War Dark Horse
  • Man O' War Immortal
  • Man O' War Puro Authentico
  • Man O' War Ruination
  • Man O' War Side Projects
  • Man O' War Virtue
  • Mayimbe
  • Morro Castle
  • New World
  • Nica Libre (not Potencia)
  • Nomad S-307
  • Rocky Patel Fusion
  • Padilla Achilles
  • Padilla Habano
  • Padilla Miami Edicion Limitada
  • Pinolero
  • Pinolero Maduro
  • Pueblo Domicana
  • Relic
  • Reposado '96
  • San Lotano Connecticut
  • San Lotano Habano
  • San Lotano Maduro
  • San Lotano Oval Connecticut
  • San Lotano Oval
  • San Lotano Oval Maduro
  • San Lotano The Bull
  • San Miguel
  • Sol Cubano Cuban Cabinet
  • Spectre
It was good overall,medium strength, not a heavy maduro at all. A few months will make em even better. Overall worth the price.
 
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Smoked the Nic Botique Lancero, which was actually more of a corona gorda. It's short filler, so not a true "second". My guess would be that it is made up of remaining short filler from one or more of these AJ Fernandez blends:

  • 5 Vegas AAA
  • A.J. Fernandez Fresh-Rolled
  • A. Fernandez Signature Series
  • Ave Maria
  • Ave Maria Divinia
  • Ave Maria Immaculata
  • Ave Maria Reconquista
  • CI Legends Olive Label
  • Diesel
  • Diesel Crucible
  • Diesel Delirium
  • Diesel Grind
  • Diesel Hair of the Dog
  • Diesel Shorty
  • Diesel Uncut
  • Diesel Unholy Cocktail
  • Diesel Unlimited
  • Diesel Wicked
  • Emilio AF-1
  • Emilio AF-2
  • Emilio AF Suave
  • Emilio Carpe Noctum
  • Emilio Mia Dora
  • Est. 1844 Anejado
  • Fallen Angel
  • Graycliff G2 Turbo
  • Gurkha Park Avenue
  • Gurkha Sherpa
  • La Herencia Cubana
  • La Herencia Cubana CORE
  • La Herencia Cubana Oscuro Fuerte
  • ITC 10th Anniversary
  • ITC Signature Summer Blend 2008
  • La Cuna Bin No 85
  • Man O' War
  • Man O' War Armada
  • Man O' War Dark Aged Maduro
  • Man O' War Dark Horse
  • Man O' War Immortal
  • Man O' War Puro Authentico
  • Man O' War Ruination
  • Man O' War Side Projects
  • Man O' War Virtue
  • Mayimbe
  • Morro Castle
  • New World
  • Nica Libre (not Potencia)
  • Nomad S-307
  • Rocky Patel Fusion
  • Padilla Achilles
  • Padilla Habano
  • Padilla Miami Edicion Limitada
  • Pinolero
  • Pinolero Maduro
  • Pueblo Domicana
  • Relic
  • Reposado '96
  • San Lotano Connecticut
  • San Lotano Habano
  • San Lotano Maduro
  • San Lotano Oval Connecticut
  • San Lotano Oval
  • San Lotano Oval Maduro
  • San Lotano The Bull
  • San Miguel
  • Sol Cubano Cuban Cabinet
  • Spectre
It was good overall,medium strength, not a heavy maduro at all. A few months will make em even better. Overall worth the price.
Assuming that the Nic Boutiques are ONLY AJF. While I think they rolled him into the NBs, I don't think they're the only blender.

Also, how do you know it was short filler? Did you unwrap one? (I do that too, if you did).
 
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