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Colorado fly fishing herf - the strategery session

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Hey guys, I've mentioned this idea a time or two, and have gotten some vigorous feedback, both on the board and via PM's. Two BOTL's from the left and right coasts have even contacted me about it.

So let me provide a little background, some ideas I have, and anybody that is interested, please chime in.

I own a fly fishing pro shop, The Peak Fly Shop. Lots of the brothers love to fish; I live to do it. No idea if I'm going to be able to do this my entire life, but I really do plan to die trying. The long and short of it is, I have some resources at my disposal (read: lots of gear, and lots of help) to help make this happen. Not gonna lie and say I can do it all by myself, but I don't think I'll have to ...

Anyway, as we have some brothers that might fly in, I'm wondering about the potential to do this as a two-day event.

Therefore I'm thinking of a weekend, in late June or early July. By then, we should be out of run-off, and that should give enough time to get it together.

A few of the possible fishing areas (I'm sticking to stuff close enough to home for me to move gear / people, but rest assured - these area all 5-star spots):

- The Arkansas River, if not blown out, is a truly massive river that offers lots of wild brown trout. It's a great dry-fly river (several brothers have fished it) and there's a veritable ton of water, as well as lots of picnic areas or even campsites for some banquet-style meals.

- Elevenmile Canyon is a drop-dead gorgeous area, with the South Platte flowing through it. Excellent all-around fishing for 3 species of trout, fish up to around 20", and pretty much guaranteed dry-fly fishing in the mornings, with good odds on dry-fly fishing in the afternoons / evenings. The canyon is near the town of Woodland Park, where I have a shop and there are several lodging areas / restaurants. The Canyon also has campsites, including ones that can accommodate RV's, should that be desireable. Picnic areas, too.

- Spinney Mountain Ranch, which is the South Platte River flowing between Spinney Mountain and Elevenmile Reservoirs. It's a stone's throw from the Canyon, and offers similar dry-fly opportunities at that time of year. The difference is, it's more technical fishing and there are some DAMN big fish in there.

Those are the river options. The Arkansas has some catch-and-keep areas, and non-fly anglers can fish it up too. The Canyon has a catch-and-keep area, is stocked, and very easily accessible for non-fly anglers. I don't know how you guys feel about spouses/kids, but if you wanted to bring them, this could work. Spinney is 100% fly/lure only (and lure guys tend to get no love there), and it's pretty technical.

There are other options as well:

- Spinney Mountain Reservoir or Antero Reservoir. You can fish them from shore, and at that time of year, both should be good. Boats are allowed on both and can definitely work. I will have access to several kick-boats or pontoon boats, and having some 2-3 man crafts at our disposal is a possibilty (I'm restoring a bass boat and at least three people in the shop are looking at buying rafts, which can work on the reservoirs, obviously). These lakes have lots of trout, and truly monster fish are in both.

We have one other possible (I say possible because I have to talk to the owner) option - Chico Basin Ranch.

- Chico is a private, working cattle ranch, about 45 minutes southeast of Colorado Springs. It has 6 spring-fed bass ponds on it. The advantage of Chico is that we can spread out across the ponds but still be fairly centrally located (and some of the ponds are close enough to make hopping out of one and walking to the other a piece of cake). One pond is more accurately a lake- we could get 6 or 8 anglers on it all at once with zero problem. There is plenty of space to get together for a lunch. We'd have to bring our own cooking gear and tables, but that's not a major problem.

Chico is, in a word, lousy with fish. The bass are not huge, but I've had 70-fish days out there. Lots of panfish as well. The downside to Chico is that I'm sure Duke, the owner, would require it to be a catch-and-release affair, and would not allow any bait fishing. There would also be a rod fee, but I'm sure Duke will work with us on that (the usual rod fee is $50 a day). Knowing Duke as I do, I can probably get him down to $20-25 a day, with the promise that we're a well-behaved and orderly bunch (you guys can behave, right?:bouncetau )

We have other private water access, but not any that can really support a larger group like we could have - and most of it is more money for less of a sure thing. Chico's a definite thought - and it'd be a blast - but, let's face it, guys don't come to Colorado to bass fish.:razz:

This would really have to be a weekend affair, I'm sure. Weekends on the Platte can mean crowds. My idea would be to split fishing time, over two days, a few spots.

For instance, maybe we could fish Spinney Ranch in the morning for the Trico hatch, then head over to the reservoir. Return to the Canyon to camp for the night. Anyone wanting to fish in the evening would easily be able to. The following day, we could drive about 90 minutes and hit Chico.

Just as a sample of what I'm talking about.

Here's what I can provide, 100% free of cost, to make this happen:

Rods, reels, waders, boots. I own a guide service. There's quite a bit of 'em lying around. :wink:

Boats for Chico and the reservoirs. It'd be kind of a grab-bag, but I got lots to grab at. The Platte river is not floatable. The Ark is, but we don't do that, and anyway, that could be a logistical nightmare to do a multi-boat float. But if you guys would really be into that (bearing in mind now you're paying a professional guide), I know how to make that happen too - 2 anglers per boat. I won't pursue that further unless there's a lot of interest.

Tables, chairs, and some equipment for cooking (grill, campstoves, etc.). Depending on the size of the party we're talking I may not have enough, but I got some.

Lastly, I have about 25 guides working for me. Some are pretty mercenary fellows, but several are really great guys - friends, really - that I'm sure I could convince to come out and be helping hands.

Note I'm not talking about hiring guides. They'd probably fish with, but can help out, teach if needed, etc.

Now, you didn't hear me say this, but if these guys were really helpful to you, slipping them a gratuity would not be totally out of order.

I have no problems with helping out in whatever way is needed. I fish enough that if I don't cast a line the entire time, I'd be happy. And the "slip a tip" thing definitely does not extend to me. If we need to have a little streamside fishing class, that's zero problem.

This is all theory and conjecture. If I'm too grandiose in my thinking, feel free to tell me - but with some folks talking about traveling a ways to do this, I hate to just say "hey we're gonna meet on the 15th and fish for a couple hours and have lunch."

Let me know what thoughts you guys have - I'd love to see this come together!

-brad
 

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Spinney mountain ranch sounds good! I haven't fly fished there but we go to Spinney a few times a year at least. I also love eleven-mile, but the bugs can get really bad in the summer!

This sounds like an awesome idea, and I'll be there for sure! I'm also happy to help out with any of the logistics, including lodging/trasnportation/etc., and am down in the Springs a bit.


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This sounds really interesting. Keep me updated on dates and prices, and I may just be up for it. It sounds incredible. But don't count me in on planning -- I don't know much about fishing, and if folks end up wanting something more than I could commit to, y'all should do it without me. But I'm definitely going to keep this in mind.
 

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Holy Shit!! I'm down!

I have size 14 feet, do I need my own waders?
I think I have at least 1 pair of wading boots that will fit - our waders are stocking-foot models, so we're pretty flexible. Honestly? If we don't have a pair of boots I will take one out of stock for you to use, and then just put them in the guide pool afterwards. Seriously not an issue at all.

I would like to keep costs as low as possible (hence the suggestion of campsites). There is a nice lodge in Woodland Park (The Eagle Fire) that has hotel-like rates, as well. Everything but Chico Basin is public water; you'd need a fishing license and (in some places) an inexpensive day pass for each vehicle (not per person).

I do need help because, while I can do trip logistics (my record is getting 106 people out on 2 lakes, 2 private ranches, and 4 rivers, all on the same day), I don't know how herfs tend to work, not having even been to my first yet. :help:

So even if you aren't an angler, if you know the ins-and-outs of herfs you can help. :thinkidea

For those that are really doing some real traveling to get here, I'll be happy to wrangle a day or two off before or after and show you around, for fishing. Benefits of being the boss. It just seems to me that to do this as a one day quickie thing would be unfair to those that might want to make a mini-vacation out of it.
 

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I think a couple days of fishing would be great! Maybe the night before the fishing we could go out to eat in the Springs and then hit up one of the cigar shops or cigar bars. Then a couple days of fishing/camping and we can cook the fish for dinner. If we're staying in Woodland Park, we'll have to hit up the Donut Mill for breakfast!

I'm going to be down in the Springs from the 17th till maybe the 20th or 21st of March. We should meet up at Stag one day, and if you need someone to help plan stuff out (especially with the herfing part, cause I'm not a fly fisherman) then I'll be glad to assist you.


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I have been fly rodding 35 years and still dont know much. I do have 5 or 6 rods from fiberglass novice to boron.
 

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i like the spinning reel for trout, a baitcast for bass!! you should go with us Chuck!!
I have a commitment in early July and I cant take a week. Later in the summer maybe. I have around 7 spinning rigs ad 3 bait cast rigs. I hear there are fish in a river somewhere near you.
 

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Well darn, I was hoping to get CWS out here. Rats. Would late June work better for you?

I'm super-easy on time-frames -- the only problem is that later in the year Chico will get unfishable due to the weeds, and the lakes will slow down some. If you guys want to do later in the summer, that's no problem, though ...

Tyler - believe it or not, the Donut Mill closed down. Stupid Woodland Park and their property tax hard-on ...

As for the planning thing, though, you bet - I hit up Club 15C for the first time last Monday. That place is awesome, though cigarette smokers outnumbered the pipe/cigar guys about 4 to 1 ...
 

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We could try the Fall, if people would really prefer it.

The bass fishing gets real sketchy then, and the dry fly fishing isn't as good, but we get big brown trout run up if you hit it right, at Spinney Mt. Ranch. The problem then is crowds - everyone's up there looking for the 20-pound monster.

I have lots of traveling slated for the fall, too, so I'd have to figure out when to make it work. Summertime, I'm not going anywhere.
 

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It looks like we're looking at the 8th through 10th of July. Halon and I've kicked around some plans for dinner and such - Tyler, we should definitely head to 15c one night!

Need to get an idea of exactly how many are coming and then discuss what you guys want to do for lodging - I'd offer to put folks up but it'd get a bit cramped.:popeyes: Between myself and a 110-pound lab there's not room to turn around half the time.
 
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