I saw this thread so I figured I'd put in my two cents. So, this is a pic of my great grandfathers Mossberg 185D 20ga that I inherited. I named it the "Farmer's Special". I believe its like a 1946 or 7 original model with org. Mag. I also have a Kahr 45 single stack acp, that I use as carry weapon. Most people are like "why 45", "why no safety" or "why a pistol w only six plus one", but once you and your wife have been mugged at gun point like we have, you understand what goes on inside you your locked up body when in that moment. Thanks I'll have to read everybody's post. Happy smokin.