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Possible Millitary Tobacco Ban

CAJoe

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This is BS, especially to do this to our heros fighting overseas.

Ban on Tobacco Urged in Military

By Gregg Zoroya, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Pentagon health experts are urging Defense Secretary Robert Gates to ban the use of tobacco by troops and end its sale on military property, a change that could dramatically alter a culture intertwined with smoking.
Jack Smith, head of the Pentagon's office of clinical and program policy, says he will recommend that Gates adopt proposals by a federal study that cites rising tobacco use and higher costs for the Pentagon and Department of Veterans Affairs as reasons for the ban.

The study by the Institute of Medicine, requested by the VA and Pentagon, calls for a phased-in ban over a period of years, perhaps up to 20. "We'll certainly be taking that recommendation forward," Smith says.

A tobacco ban would confront a military culture, the report says, in which "the image of the battle-weary soldier in fatigues and helmet, fighting for his country, has frequently included his lit cigarette."

Also, the report said, troops worn out by repeated deployments often rely on cigarettes as a "stress reliever." The study found that tobacco use in the military increased after the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan began.

Pentagon spokeswoman Cynthia Smith said the department supports a smoke-free military "and believes it is achievable." She declined to elaborate on any possible ban.

One in three servicemembers use tobacco, the report says, compared with one in five adult Americans. The heaviest smokers are soldiers and Marines, who have done most of the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, the study says. About 37% of soldiers use tobacco and 36% of Marines. Combat veterans are 50% more likely to use tobacco than troops who haven't seen combat.

Tobacco use costs the Pentagon $846 million a year in medical care and lost productivity, says the report, which used older data. The Department of Veterans Affairs spends up to $6 billion in treatments for tobacco-related illnesses, says the study, which was released late last month.

Along with a phased-in ban, the report recommends requiring new officers and enlisted personnel to be tobacco-free, eliminating tobacco use on military installations, ships and aircraft, expanding treatment programs and eliminating the sale of tobacco on military property. "Any tobacco use while in uniform should be prohibited," the study says.

The military complicates attempts to curb tobacco use by subsidizing tobacco products for troops who buy them at base exchanges and commissaries, says Kenneth Kizer, a committee member and architect of California's anti-tobacco program.

Seventy percent of profits from tobacco sales — $88 million in 2005 — pays for recreation and family support programs, the study stays.

Strong leadership could make the military tobacco-free in five to 10 years, Kizer says. President Obama, he says, could set an example for the military by ending his own smoking habit once and for all. Last month, Obama said he is "95% cured" but "there are times when I mess up" and smoke.
 

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I'd be surprised if this gets passed. But I won't put it past them to do it
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When and where is this gonna stop?

How do we finally make a stand to say we've had enough?

Whatever happened to the "Land of the Free?"

I'm so sick of this shit I could just puke.
 
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I think the decision to risk your life for your countrymen should be a fair trade to be able to make the decision to smoke or not.

Outrageous.
 

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I have a hard time buying the numbers they are citing as tobacco related expenses.

Good luck with this. I would say more like 80% of soldiers smoke.

Pretty soon tobacco will be the next item to experience prohibition, jus tlike alchohol back in the 20s and 30s.
 

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I have a hard time buying the numbers they are citing as tobacco related expenses.

Good luck with this. I would say more like 80% of soldiers smoke.

Pretty soon tobacco will be the next item to experience prohibition, jus tlike alchohol back in the 20s and 30s.

And we all know just how well that worked out......
 
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I'd definitely like so see where some of these numbers come from. $6 billion on tobacco related illnesses?
 

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what a pile of crap. U hate those fuckin people, they probably never set a foot on the front lines and wanna tell soldiers if they can smoke or not.
I was in the german army, I started smoking again during that time and loved every moment of it.
 

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I think if they pass this the troops should turn to these pentagon health officials pushing this and hand them their rifles and say "you fight this f@#king war, you get shot at!" ...buncha bastards f@#ks. Heaven forbid our boys actually enjoy a smoke while fighting in that 120 degree hell hole of sand....I am sooo sick of all these politicians deciding what's best for people...let the people decide!!! :bangbang:
 
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Fine ... but if you're gonna ban tobacco, then let the troops smoke marijuana. Some studies I read recently have the health risks less than cigarettes or alcohol. A cellular study done at the UCLA Medical School also showed that the THC compound in mj has some anti-tumor properties.

I'm sure an added benefit would also be fewer cases of PTSD ...
 
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Fine ... but if you're gonna ban tobacco, then let the troops smoke marijuana. Some studies I read recently have the health risks less than cigarettes or alcohol. A cellular study done at the UCLA Medical School also showed that the THC compound in mj has some anti-tumor properties.

I'm sure an added benefit would also be fewer cases of PTSD ...
Not only that but I've also read smoking marijuana or at least a mix of marijuana and tobacco increases one's ability to see in the dark. It was a unofficial observance of some indigenous fishermen somewhere in the world. They would smoke up before they went out for the night in pitch black but could find their way around. When they didn't smoke they couldn't see.
 
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The lives of those in the military are already restricted enough. Not to mention your lack of privacy. Take those negatives into account and an even more restricted life then they will start seeing retirements and separations rise.

The scary thing about this is that I bet they are using the DOD as a guinea pig. If they can ban tobacco in the DOD then they will move towards all federal employees. After they have all the federal employees banned from smoking then they will set their sights on the general population. My little theory may be out of order but it seems that would be the logical order.
 

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This will never EVER pass. It's a joke. All the generals are reading this thing while smoking stogies and laughing their arses off.
 
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