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Which Motor Oil Do You Use / How Frequently Do You Change It?

Which Motor Oil Do You Use / How Frequently Do You Change It? Post a Poll

  • 0W-20

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 5W-20

    Votes: 15 9.0%
  • 5W-30

    Votes: 54 32.3%
  • 10W-30

    Votes: 34 20.4%
  • 10W-40

    Votes: 20 12.0%
  • every 3,000 miles

    Votes: 40 24.0%
  • every 5,000 miles

    Votes: 63 37.7%
  • every 10,000 miles

    Votes: 21 12.6%
  • every 15,000 miles

    Votes: 9 5.4%
  • conventional motor oil

    Votes: 28 16.8%
  • synthetic blend motor oil

    Votes: 15 9.0%
  • fully synthetic motor oil

    Votes: 76 45.5%

  • Total voters
    167

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A recent conversation with my father-in-law about motor oil sparked my interest in learning more about it. I have always used conventional motor oil with the mfgr's recommended oil viscosity (currently 5W-20 in my Ford Ranger) and changed close to recommended OCI (I will go about 4k in my truck). However, I'm considering switching to fully synthetic 5W-30 or 10W-30 (probably the latter, since I live in south Mississippi and temperatures seldom drop below freezing, and if then they normally won't drop below 20F) and an OCI (oil change interval) of about 10-15K (Castrol, for example, guarantees extended drain interval up to 15k with Castrol Edge) with a filter change every 5k.

However, I've been reading a lot about why some mfgrs recommend 5W-20 and I've read at almost every source I've visited that it's because of the CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy). I've found sources (here (my favorite writeup thus far), here, here, and here to list a few). Basically, I've gathered that the gov't requires mfgrs to supply a sufficient amount of fuel-efficient vehicles to offset less fuel-efficient vehicles in order to maintain a certain CAFE overall in their fleet. By recommending 5w-20 oil, which I've read only increases fuel efficiency a minute percentage anywhere from .5% to 1%, mfgrs are able to increase the fuel efficiency on their overal fleet by a reasonable margin. The result, I've found, is that (with the exception of only one model that I've read about, and I can't recall which one) 5W-20 is not necessary unless driving in fairly cold climates (down to ≈-30F). In most cases, 5W-30 or 10W-30 are very safe. Also, I've actually read (this link, listed earlier, also hits this very thoroughly) that fully synthetic oil can be changed after 20k-30k (which I wouldn't consider regardless), but it is reasonable to consider an oil change of fully synthetic oil every 10k-15k, and 3k changes (even with conventional oil) are outdated and no longer necessary. However, many oil mfgrs still push it to sell more of their product.

Anyway, what do you use, how often do you change, and what are your thoughts?
 
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When Mobile one which was the first synthetic to hit the market my Dad knew the local distributor. The distributor had a big lincoln that he had driven close to 100k miles on mobile one before changing the oil as a test for the company and it was only mildy dirty. My Dad switched to it in his Cadilac, changed it after about 5 k miles since it had run dino oil for 40k miles, then went 25k before the next change and it was amazingly clean.

If I was running synthetic I wouldnt think twice about going longer intervals myself. As it is with regular oil I go 7k most of the time as I commute mostly on freeways.
 

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For right now my truck is under warranty with Dodge so I let them do it every 3,000 miles for the $20 they charge. That way when they screw it up, which they already have once, I can blame it on them. After my 36,000 miles I will go to Mobil 1 and change every 5,000 miles.
 
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I prefer changing the oil myself on my personal car/truck. Every 3k, Mfg's recommended weight ('08 Corvette and '08 Tundra) which is 5w20 full syn. The Tundra uses a cannister type filter so it is messy. You know, hot motoroil running down your arm into your armpit, the wind blowing the oil past the catch can onto the driveway, dropping the plug into the catch can, a severe neck cramp from holding your head up and cocked to the left, it's a blast.
 

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If I was running synthetic I wouldnt think twice about going longer intervals myself. As it is with regular oil I go 7k most of the time as I commute mostly on freeways.
For right now my truck is under warranty with Dodge so I let them do it every 3,000 miles for the $20 they charge. That way when they screw it up, which they already have once, I can blame it on them. After my 36,000 miles I will go to Mobil 1 and change every 5,000 miles.
both very good points, which reminds me I forgot to mention I am out of warranty and most of my driving is done on state roads / interstates at 55/70 mph, respectively. Very little stop n go traffic for me.
 
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I have 290,000 miles on my Ford F-150. I just switched to Mobile One. I use the 10w-40 due to the high miles. The truck runs much better on it. My wife thought she was doing me a favor ant took it in for an oil change. I do not know what they used but it rattles right now. I did not have that with the Mobile One.
 
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I swap between 5W in the winter and 10w in the summer. I change ever 5K and don't feel the synthetic can be justified for my use.

I read a very indepth article about oil and the thing that makes synthetic advantageous over conventional is not the length of the oil change but the resistance of the actual lubricants in the oil to high temperatures. The hi-performance vehicles that have non hi-po counterparts like Cadillac CTS the regular model is conventional oil I think, and the CTSV is synthetic. The reason being is because the synthetic can withstand the heat produced by the higher compression engine in the corvette motor balancing out the need of an engine oil cooler with conventional oil. If I could find the article again I'd love to share. It was written by a GM oil specialist or something like that. Basically it said the molecules responsible for the actual lubrication qualities of the oil are more stable than conventional oil especially at high temps.
 
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I swap between 5W in the winter and 10w in the summer. I change ever 5K and don't feel the synthetic can be justified for my use.

I read a very indepth article about oil and the thing that makes synthetic advantageous over conventional is not the length of the oil change but the resistance of the actual lubricants in the oil to high temperatures. The hi-performance vehicles that have non hi-po counterparts like Cadillac CTS the regular model is conventional oil I think, and the CTSV is synthetic. The reason being is because the synthetic can withstand the heat produced by the higher compression engine in the corvette motor balancing out the need of an engine oil cooler with conventional oil. If I could find the article again I'd love to share. It was written by a GM oil specialist or something like that. Basically it said the molecules responsible for the actual lubrication qualities of the oil are more stable than conventional oil especially at high temps.
Yes GM specs Mobil 1 5w30 for the Corvette although I'm sure other good full-syn 5w30's would be just as good.
 
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I was curious about this myself, I have a chrysler aspen v8 hemi I always go with whats recommended 5w-20. I change it about every 5,000 miles and I change it myself. As far as I know its all good! I also just added a quart of lucas, don't really notice any difference?
 
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Yes GM specs Mobil 1 5w30 for the Corvette although I'm sure other good full-syn 5w30's would be just as good.
Anything that meets GM4718M spec should be just as good, I use mobile one or Amsoil in my 08 vette
 
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I was curious about this myself, I have a chrysler aspen v8 hemi I always go with whats recommended 5w-20. I change it about every 5,000 miles and I change it myself. As far as I know its all good! I also just added a quart of lucas, don't really notice any difference?
I've never used Lucas oil additive but always add Lucas fuel treatment to every fillup. It is an upper cylinder lub, fuel pump lub, injector cleaner and is reasonably cheap as it only takes 3oz/10gal.
 

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just a note: I don't think there's anything wrong with using 5W-20 oil, especially for some brothers further north. However, on the gulf coast the temps sometimes reach 100, which is why I'm considering upping the viscosity. the 5W-20 doesn't hurt, but maybe the 5W-30 or 10W-30 would be better.

Also, I read that 10W-30 would be better than 5W-30 (assuming the climate is appropriate) because it covers a smaller range of temperature resistance. As a result, it requires fewer additives and more base oils which should help it last longer.

It's also worth noting that I've read in several place that the majority of oil additives have been proven to be ineffective or actually counterproductive and/or harmful to your engine. I looked further into fuel additives, but I didn't look very far and didn't come up with much. Any info on that?

I found several graphs showing the appropriate temps for each viscosity, but I actually came across an article this morning saying that SAE doesn't actually publish the standards, or at least thats what I gathered from it (I may be mistaken, please correct me if I'm wrong). Here's a graph that seemed pretty average though:
 
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Also, I read that 10W-30 would be better than 5W-30 (assuming the climate is appropriate) because it covers a smaller range of temperature resistance. As a result, it requires fewer additives and more base oils which should help it last longer.


I'm no oil expert. I live in Texas so could use 10w30 but I would think the 5w30 would actually pump easier on start up and at running temperature both should be the same. I dont think 10w30 would be better for any reason, and if you run synthetic the additive issue shouldn't matter. Even if the oil lasted longer 5w should be better for your car since it pumps easier on startup and lubes the engine quicker.
 
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I'm no oil expert. I live in Texas so could use 10w30 but I would think the 5w30 would actually pump easier on start up and at running temperature both should be the same. I dont think 10w30 would be better for any reason, and if you run synthetic the additive issue shouldn't matter. Even if the oil lasted longer 5w should be better for your car since it pumps easier on startup and lubes the engine quicker.
Good point!

Anyone know the difference between Castrol Edge and Syntec?
 
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Very informative!, I heard good things about the lucas fuel additive, when ever im in the aisle most of time the people at the store push lucas products! Based on knowledge does anyone know if oil additives actually hold its weight or are they just a waste of money?
 

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I use Rotella T6 15w-40 in every reciprocating engine I own aside from two-cycles. I've used Rotella dino on everything in the past and it protects very well, just gives you a little lower MPG in my opinion because of lack of friction modifiers. In the car, I'll go 10k, motorcycles 5k.

Don't forget the filter, they're as important if not more so than the oil. I trust Purolator PureOne's
 
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