Well I figured someone would come up with this reply, so I had this in mind. Now there's 32 teams in the NFL, well, 31 if you don't count the Lions and quite frankly, really, are the Lions a threat to anyone? So with that in mind, the Packers have a 1 in 32 chance of making it to the Super Bowl just by numbers alone. So the odds are quite long to begin with, so Joe, if you want to give me 4-1, I'll take that bet. The Packers don't make the Super Bowl, I owe you a fiver, the Packers do make the Super Bowl, you owe me 20...still wanna wager? :thumbsup: