I used to go to work at 4am so I had to get up about 2:30. I also went to bed basically with my kids. Best part about that schedule was when I came home at noon I was able to eat lunch and have a smoke before picking the kids up from daycare.That's what I do. I have to be up for work at 0230 and usually go to be a little after the kids. I get a lot less sleep than i used to, but I'll make up for it when I die right?