I have developed a very strong relationship with my liquor store and I am always on the list for Van Winkle bourbons. I purchase a lot of stuff there and they try to take care of their good customers. That being said Van Winkle is always allocated. My store only got a few bottles the last allocation and all of it was Old Rip Van Winkle 10 year old. The price set by the distributor was $65. So it is never cheap that's for sure. I will tell you that it is all made at Buffalo Trace and they have only ONE wheated mashbill that is used for Old Weller Antique, WL Weller 12, William Larue Weller from the Buffalo Trace Antique Collection, Weller Special Reserve and all of the Van Winkle line. It's all the SAME mashbill. It's just a matter of barrel selection that makes the difference. If you can get Weller 12 or Old Weller Antique you won't be missing much. Of course they get hard to find very once in a while (like right now) but they will be back. The legend of the Van Winkle came about because there was a huge amount of whiskey owned by the Van Winkle family after the sell of the old Steitzel-Weller distillery and they bottled and sold it. It got huge press reviews and became a legend. There is none of that old whiskey left. 99% of all the whiskey in a Van Winkle bottle is coming from Buffalo Trace.Just out of curiosity, since I'm a newb to the whole Bourbon world, how do you find Pappy Van Winkle Bourbons at a decent price? Everything here in California is $$$$$!