• BOTL UPCOMING MAINTENANCE

    Hi Everyone, as mentioned in my introduction post, BOTL needs quite a bit of updating, patching and whatever else I might come across. Over the next few weekends BOTL may be unreachable on occasion as I do migrations or updates, etc. Just be patient - we'll be back! I'll generally try to keep these maintenances until later in the evenings.

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  1. HIM*

    DE Factory Seconds

    A split isn't a bad idea though I don't know that I want to take that leap without some feedback to go on. I was hoping some people had tried these already. I certainly agree I can think of other sticks I wouldn't regret spending that sort of money on. On the other hand if they're even in the...
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    DE Factory Seconds

    Any time LPs or DE is brought up he chimes in with something negative. When you read the comment with that already in mind it comes off demeaning. If you've smoked one and hate them then scream it to the hill tops. But I'm not trying to hear all the snarky comments from people riding the hate...
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    DE Factory Seconds

    I was expecting you to reply to this thread with some snarky comment. Give legit feedback or move along. Last I checked smoke what you like and like what you smoke was the golden rule of this hobby. Not make demeaning comments towards others passionate about the leaf because of their tastes...
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    DE Factory Seconds

    Anyone tried any of these yet and if so how much are they like the original lines? Not the Factory Bundles or Blue Ribbons but the LP and Undercrown 2nds listed here..... https://www.famous-smoke.com/brand/drew estate factory seconds uc cigars https://www.famous-smoke.com/search?kw=drew estate...
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    FDA Regulations (Hypocrisy & BS)

    I guess it depends what sort of regulation your expecting to see. I'll admit its confusing where the FDA steps in and where its left to other departments. I don't think your trying to throw alcohol under the bus I just thought I might be in a unique position to clear up how heavily regulated the...
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    FDA Regulations (Hypocrisy & BS)

    How your budget rations out depends on what you like as both markets have high and low ends in terms of pricing. I couldn't tell you what it costs to make a cigar but if you look at the bundle market they've proven it can be pretty cheap and still be profitable. You could buy a bundle of sticks...
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    FDA Regulations (Hypocrisy & BS)

    FWIW the taxes on beer are usually the most expensive 'ingredient' in making the beer. On average more than 40% of the cost a consumer pays for a beer goes towards local, state, and federal taxes. Per the TTB large cigars are taxed at 52.75% of sales price, but not to exceed $402.60, per 1000...
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    FDA Regulations (Hypocrisy & BS)

    The problem is they aren't making a good distinction between something people empty out and fill with weed and a premium handrolled. It can't be looked at as broadly as fruit when it needs to be seen as apples and oranges. I'll admit the infused market doesn't help but people should be free to...
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    Homebrewers - Whats Fermenting?

    Got to scratch another project of my to brew list today. An imperial Berliner dry hopped with Nelson Sauvin. 70/30 white wheat/German pils. Should be good. Also just tapped the Gose I made with Key West sea salt and a Oaked Choc RIS. Plan on adding Key Lime juice to the Gose but haven't had the...
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    Month Of The Monsters

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    Homebrewers - Whats Fermenting?

    Brewed an imperial wit today. Haven't done this recipe in a while now it'll be nice to have it on tap again.
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    No bad cigars

    I think a few things go into ratings like this. First is judging it for what it is at its price point. A stick might not compare well to the market as a whole but when compared at its price range it could be a standout. Something like an El Cobre comes to mind here. Another factor is what people...
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    Any Powerlifters?

    @swingerofbirches do you know if these results are in lbs or kilos? http://usapl.liftingdatabase.com/competitions-view?id=1243 Im trying to see how I stack up to my weight class. Which from what I can tell if this is all in lbs I'm not impressed. Who the hell wins their class with a 185lb squat...
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    Any Powerlifters?

    Thanks Charlie! Thats awesome your gonna step up and compete much respect for man. What are your lifts looking like these days? I see this time last year you were killing it!
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    Any Powerlifters?

    No meets but making solid progress. Scale has me at 160 on the nose and maxes for bench/front squat/back squat are 260/275/350. Can't really go heavy on deads where I'm lifting so not sure where that's at. I'm getting close to the 1000lb club though.
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    Today's Smoke (2004-2022 Archive)

    Happy Tat Tuesday! When did the Reservas get new secondary bands? I don't remember them saying 'broadleaf' on them.
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    Filler center vein... leave in or remove?

    I've always rolled with the midrib in. At least what's left of it after its frog legged. There's a JDN factory video where they talk about this but I've never been able to find it again. In addition to what's already been mentioned they say it helps gives the cigar structure. Wish I could come...
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    Warped Lirio Rojo

    If your big on Warped these guys should be one of your go to vendors....https://www.caspercigarcompany.com/Cigars/warped?page=1 They have pretty much everything.
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    Warped Lirio Rojo

    These are phenomenal and one of my favorite releases this year. The 10 I had did not last very long.
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    Videos

    I know exactly what your talking about. FWIW that's a Rocky Patel video not Perdomo.
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