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Adventures in home rolling
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BigSkySmoke
Lanceros, Cowgirls and Burritos
Love this thread!!! One of the reason I had to join here. Amazing looking sticks fellas.
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Here is your wrapper here. Recognize it ? lol .Looks quite different already. Its still pumping out a lot of ammonia.It would take your breath away at this stage. I also Have a few leaves of the H2K wrapper that you like. Its not a lot but It should be done around the same time and I will throw that in as well. All said and done you should have enough for 1/2 doz sticks of the blend anyway.
Welcome! I assume based on your handle you are from or in Montana. I grew up in Comumbia Falls, I miss it there, especially the summers.
BigSkySmoke
Lanceros, Cowgirls and Burritos
Well I'm just hair north of MDF/plywood and south of Cedar Creek...small world and even smaller towns.
And yes, the summers are amazing...I sure as hell dont stay for the winters. Haha
What do you all think of this?
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A tool built specifically for removing the large main stem or rib from whole tobacco leaf.
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Tobacco Leaf Stem Removal Tool NEW!
$29.99
• In stock
A tool built specifically for removing the large main stem or rib from whole tobacco leaf.
Description
This tool was specially made to remove the main stem of a tobacco leaf with ease, and features a wooden handle for comfort.
Simply insert the leaf and pull, the plates block the leaf while you pull away the rest of the stem with your hand, keeping your hands clean and allowing for quick and easy leaf processing."
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I can't exactly imagine how it works, but it does look somewhat more compact than the original:
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Maybe it goes around the stem at the base of the leaf, and you yank the stem UP through the hole and it somehow doesn't crumble/collapse the leaf?
Come to think of it, once I get the midrib pulled out 4 or 5 veins back from the tip, it'll get thick enough to where I can grab the midrib and blades in such away as to separate them clean with a straight pull all at once. ( and not around the wrist ) Perhaps if one would use it like a scissor over the midrib and clamped in the right spot and yanked. I want to see it dance.
I took a vid of a stem stripper somewheres ... but I never posted it, cause I thought it was boring. The stripping machine in question is like 125 years old and still will zip a stem out in a twinkle. I should hunt it up.
One thing I haven't shared with the group yet, Willy has taught me that regardless of vein position (inside/outside) the binder leaf should always be facing the same direction, tip of the leaf pointed to the right. I'm not sure how much of a common practice this is, but it was something I found interesting and have had a hard time getting used to with my OCD.
The wrapper will always have the veins on the inside, but the binder can have the veins inside or outside depending on which half of the leaf you use. This method obviously only works if you are pressing the sticks in a mold. Freehand rolling with no mold you would want to make sure the veins are inside
It makes me wonder if there is a misinterpretation between Willy and my brain. You say He said "the binder leaf should always be facing the same direction, tip of the leaf pointed to the right." I get "the same direction" part but, the same two half leaves can be used left or right to bind with by flipping them. I mean if we use 2 half leaves taken from the same midrib, they'll have opposite vein exposure. But, if one would like to only bind from the right, then one could certainly do so. yes?
Using your binder placement in your video Brew as a example, .. first, you all will notice, the outer edges of a leaf has very little veins visible inside or out. Giving reason to have that edge on the outer finished seam. .. In that video, by having that outer edge of the leaf placed at the bottom, it will be tucked under, leaving the thickest parts of the veins to be exposed to that outer seam. Also, by starting with the foot of the bunch and matching it with the base of the leaf (opposite the tip) we'll find the binder wanting to turn up and go back towards the foot and around the bunch instead of forward and down the bunch towards the head.
Brew, you did say it was streaming nerves and, for that, you get a pass. so, I'm not going to ask why you do that. Besides, those sticks will, very much most of likely be awesome smokes.
Rickey Taylor will do it his own way for sure and, Bob will say low, medium and high case is all you need besides a finger nail, a match and a little spit.
I seem to be going for most typical or, traditional techniques. .. but, all techniques are of interest to me.
I am curious about binder direction placement in relation to wrapper direction placement on a given stick though. What say all of you?
I used to think if they were going in the opposite directions they would act to stabilize each other. I'm not sure about that. But, if you do it without gluing the binder, the wrapper tends to want to unravel the binder.
Using your binder placement in your video Brew as a example, .. first, you all will notice, the outer edges of a leaf has very little veins visible inside or out. Giving reason to have that edge on the outer finished seam. .. In that video, by having that outer edge of the leaf placed at the bottom, it will be tucked under, leaving the thickest parts of the veins to be exposed to that outer seam. Also, by starting with the foot of the bunch and matching it with the base of the leaf (opposite the tip) we'll find the binder wanting to turn up and go back towards the foot and around the bunch instead of forward and down the bunch towards the head.
Brew, you did say it was streaming nerves and, for that, you get a pass. so, I'm not going to ask why you do that. Besides, those sticks will, very much most of likely be awesome smokes.
Rickey Taylor will do it his own way for sure and, Bob will say low, medium and high case is all you need besides a finger nail, a match and a little spit.
I seem to be going for most typical or, traditional techniques. .. but, all techniques are of interest to me.
I am curious about binder direction placement in relation to wrapper direction placement on a given stick though. What say all of you?
I used to think if they were going in the opposite directions they would act to stabilize each other. I'm not sure about that. But, if you do it without gluing the binder, the wrapper tends to want to unravel the binder.
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Since the binder leaf doesn't have the requirement of showing a finished side I think Willy's method is fine. I've always done it this way also. It will burn and taste the same. I do use the thinnest binder possible so the veins facing outward is not an issue.
If you prefer to roll the binder one from the left and then one from the right then that works just fine also. The finished cigar won't know the difference unless, as you point out, the veins are large and protruding through the wrapper.
If you prefer to roll the binder one from the left and then one from the right then that works just fine also. The finished cigar won't know the difference unless, as you point out, the veins are large and protruding through the wrapper.
So, which way is that exactly Don?
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