Yup. Trying not to provide too in-depth of a spoilerPossible minor spoiler alert
Kyle Ren is his assumed "sith" name. Is birth name is different.
Yup. Trying not to provide too in-depth of a spoilerPossible minor spoiler alert
Kyle Ren is his assumed "sith" name. Is birth name is different.
Then for the love of God, stay out of this thread!!! LolIn theater now... Waiting for it to start
The original Star Wars stylized the imperial uniform after Nazi uniforms for this exact reasonFinal and biggest criticism is the overtly Nazi-esque salute that the stormtroopers did at their big rally, because the Star Wars legacy is strong enough on it's own that they didn't need to stoop to relating stormtroopers to Nazis to show that they're the bad guys. Way too cliche.
Fair enough... but now that Star Wars is so established, they didn't have to do something even more over-the-top. Just my .02The original Star Wars stylized the imperial uniform after Nazi uniforms for this exact reason
I was relieved when I read this. Lucas has gone all touchy feely and I believe most people are not interested in more prequel-like disappointment.Then this morning I read that when Lucas sold the rights to Disney they refused to use any of his story lines and they were taking it in their own direction. So this is a Disney movie with star wars characters.
In the movie his name is Ben Solo. These new movies are not based off the books. Disney and Abrams have chosen to ignore the Star Wars Universe books after Return of the Jedi including the store revolving around Jacen Solo, and that character doesn't even exist in these movies. It's one of the things that disappointed me about this movie is the fact that Disney is ignoring the books. I didn't hate the movie, but there were some things that disappointed me. I didn't like that it pretty much had the same story arch as the New Hope. The story lacked creativity. It also didn't answer most of the questions I had going into it. Dialogue and acting were pretty much better than any of the Lucas films, because dialogue was never Lucas' strength. I liked the nostalgia, but I would've preferred a better plot.Spoiler Alert
No, SERIOUSLY SPOILER AHEAD
I think it would be a safe bet to say the Jacen Solo (name came from the extended star wars universe via books I've read, but I don't think it was mentioned in the movie) did indeed die in this movie when he killed XXXXXXXX and succumbed fully to the dark side as Kylo Ren.
This does continue with the same basis of plots from the original trilogy in speculation. He succumbed to the dark side, just as Anakin did to become Vader, but Leia and/or Luke will want to try to turn him back, just like Luke and Vader.
It is very disappointing to see them going in an entirely different direction, as opposed to at least somewhat following a very well established Star Wars universe.n the movie his name is Ben Solo. These new movies are not based off the books. Disney and Abrams have chosen to ignore the Star Wars Universe books after Return of the Jedi including the store revolving around Jacen Solo, and that character doesn't even exist in these movies. It's one of the things that disappointed me about this movie is the fact that Disney is ignoring the books.
I think Disney went just as touchy feely as Lucas started to, plus they rushed all of the character development (or lack thereof).I was relieved when I read this. Lucas has gone all touchy feely and I believe most people are not interested in more prequel-like disappointment.
The books are generally based off the movies. In other words, Lucas creates the groundwork with the movies, and then has authors write books surrounding that groundwork. The books generally follow the movies to avoid the Star Wars universe books from deviating from the characters' backgrounds or conflicting with the movies.It is very disappointing to see them going in an entirely different direction, as opposed to at least somewhat following a very well established Star Wars universe.
I think Disney went just as touchy feely as Lucas started to, plus they rushed all of the character development (or lack thereof).
The more I think back on it, the less and less I like it. Hopefully they were just laying the ground work and Episode VIII will be good
The first 3 released films had a lot from the books left out. It was worth reading the books to get more info on the story. The prequels though it does look like the books were written after the movie was made. They were a big dissapointment to read.The books are generally based off the movies. In other words, Lucas creates the groundwork with the movies, and then has authors write books surrounding that groundwork. The books generally follow the movies to avoid the Star Wars universe books from deviating from the characters' backgrounds or conflicting with the movies.
The books for the original Star Wars were based off the scripts of the movies. Lucas' owned the publishing rights, so he would apparently show the scripts of the movies to whomever was writing the books.The first 3 released films had a lot from the books left out. It was worth reading the books to get more info on the story. The prequels though it does look like the books were written after the movie was made. They were a big dissapointment to read.
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