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TommyTao said:
Why does the roller rub the darker wrapper in his palm first?
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Dunno, brosef, but it seems like he was doing it to increase the stretch on that CT Broadleaf maduro. I might try to email them and ask. Never seen it anywhere else IRL or on video.
 
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both these rollers finish left and right wrappers with there right hands. what do you all do? .. I would also like to hear what he says about rolling the wrapper in a ball b. please contact them.
 
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Marc L said:
both these rollers finish left and right wrappers with there right hands. what do you all do? .. I would also like to hear what he says about rolling the wrapper in a ball b. please contact them.
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I will drop Shawna a line. I already tried it yesterday, but with USA CT. Didn't make any difference, but made me wonder if he was just distributing oils. But yeah.
 
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blisscigarco said:
I reckon it's possible after all to roll a toro with a a carefully selected FXSmith CT Shade leaf.
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Bliss, you do such beautiful work. First time I've seen a toro which wasn't 52 or 54 rg.

I'm experimenting now with a way to hydrate that FX CT for shipment without creating the dark damp stains you complained about. I bought a new stacker cooler, put a tray of water in it, put a grate over that, put a couple hands over that. This seems to be slowly dampening the leaves without discoloration. It might take a week, but when it's done I'll send you some. Working on a couple hands for Fusion since Monday. Start out brittle, but flex up nicely. If I were LO or WLT I'd have a better way... but as it is, I'm winging it.
 
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Bliss, you do such beautiful work. First time I've seen a toro which wasn't 52 or 54 rg.

I'm experimenting now with a way to hydrate that FX CT for shipment without creating the dark damp stains you complained about. I bought a new stacker cooler, put a tray of water in it, put a grate over that, put a couple hands over that. This seems to be slowly dampening the leaves without discoloration. It might take a week, but when it's done I'll send you some. Working on a couple hands for Fusion since Monday. Start out brittle, but flex up nicely. If I were LO or WLT I'd have a better way... but as it is, I'm winging it.
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Thanks, @webmost.
So, on the "toro" thing. The question of a toro's specs is what led me to roll that thing. Lately I'd noticed that many commercial cigars I smoke fall short of their claimed specs. I smoked a Warped Futuro Seleccion Suprema, advertised as 5 5/8 x 46 and called a "classic corona gorda vitola" on their website. YET it actually measures 5 1/2 x 44, making it a plain ol' corona. So THEN I smoked an Avo #2 CT, which they call a toro on their website and list as 6 x 50. And yet, just like many robustos I smoke listed as 50, it actually measures 48. So I thought, Well, what is a toro, anyway? I looked it up and most were in the 50-52rg, but many sites listed the toro vitola as 48-50, 48-52, etc. So I thought, well, at least Avo didn't lie calling it a toro. Then I noticed how much I liked the feel of that Avo and that's when I decided to try a toro with the FX Smith.

As for the wrapper, why do you have to moisten it at all? When I order that stuff from Jorge it comes tissue-paper dry and lubes up perfectly. Couldn't you just throw some hands in a long box? Anyway, thank you.
 
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Thanks, @webmost.
So, on the "toro" thing. The question of a toro's specs is what led me to roll that thing. Lately I'd noticed that many commercial cigars I smoke fall short of their claimed specs. I smoked a Warped Futuro Seleccion Suprema, advertised as 5 5/8 x 46 and called a "classic corona gorda vitola" on their website. YET it actually measures 5 1/2 x 44, making it a plain ol' corona. So THEN I smoked an Avo #2 CT, which they call a toro on their website and list as 6 x 50. And yet, just like many robustos I smoke listed as 50, it actually measures 48. So I thought, Well, what is a toro, anyway? I looked it up and most were in the 50-52rg, but many sites listed the toro vitola as 48-50, 48-52, etc. So I thought, well, at least Avo didn't lie calling it a toro. Then I noticed how much I liked the feel of that Avo and that's when I decided to try a toro with the FX Smith.

As for the wrapper, why do you have to moisten it at all? When I order that stuff from Jorge it comes tissue-paper dry and lubes up perfectly. Couldn't you just throw some hands in a long box? Anyway, thank you.
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These hands came box about two feet wide, two and a half long, ten inches high. The box is labeled "Windsor Valley", IIRC. Each hand is fanned out as wide as the box will hold. Unless I soften the hands up, I can't figure how to separate leaves, no how to stuff them in a narrow box. When I get home, I'll try and take a pic.

Doesn't seem to matter when they prepare a hand at the factory. They stick the whole business into a barrel of water overnight, then on to the stemming machines. Comes out just fine. Not that big a deal when I am rolling a batch of ten for the mold, either. I gingerly work six leaves out of a hand, spritz inside a bag, and stick them in. But, apparently, when I spritz a whole hand to get them to you, by the time that they arrive, there's discoloration.

I wasn't born to this, so I have to learn the hard way.
 
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