They're Villager 1888, that's why nothing came up. I know nothing about them, though, sorry.Thanks Orangedog. Was a struggle to find the ligas in miami. The stick at the far right is a sample the owner of one of the b&m's I go to gave to me. Its a Villager 888 petite robusto that his distributor wants him to push for $12 a pop!?! I googled the name and nothing came up lol :dunno: