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the OE15 Dog Rocket Challenge!!!
- Thread starter multi-useless
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Well I got two takers so I am taking it as a challenge. @multi-useless you better pay up for this. It is for the kids after all. And there is an actual leaf around this thing.
Just a taste of what to come.
Just a taste of what to come.
I smoked this one earlier in the week and am just getting around to this post, mainly due to lack of enthusiasm. Soon you will understand why.
Dog Rocket: Reserva Maxima by Puros Indios by Rolando Reyes <--that's way to involved for this cigar.
Acquired from: The justly maligned CI Dominican Grab Bag
Man, I need to get a better background if I'm gonna keep doing these.
So, for a change, this cigar actually exists. And you could buy them on CI for $1.65 a stick if they were not out of stock. Aww, too bad.
One reviewers there said that, " it was the by far the best cigar in the pack" and to that, I cannot disagree. It's the best cow patty in the field, to be sure. But a rocket by any other name will still launch a puppy into orbit.
Construction was decent, though a little spongy. The cut was clean. The burn throughout was relatively even.
The pre-light draw was...grainy? Not grainy the texture, but grainy like I just inhaled with my mouth pressed against a burlap bag of animal feed. Not horrible, but odd.
The first few puffs were a little grassy, but that went away quickly. It mellowed to that grainy taste again. I had tasted this before, but couldn't place it.
I grew up on a farm in NJ. I cannot tell you how many times during these DR reviews that scents and flavors from my farm childhood have been recalled. That's clearly a lie, since I've been doing exactly that. Great, now I'm a liar. Thanks Rolando! Making a liar out of me in public. Why I oughta... But I digress.
I'm working on pinning this flavor down and am a little over an inch in. The ash is hanging on and I go to take a pic. It falls, just as I hit the button.
Ahh, disappointment. Drat! And then it hits me.
I was probably 8 years old. My grandma Rita was unloading her groceries. And that's the first time The World At Large lied to me. Rita took a box of cereal out of her grocery back and I was filled with joy. The writing on the box indicated that a fruity and nutty experience awaited me for my next breakfast. Another amazing new taste experience for this young boy, eager to learn all the things.
The next day, as I took my first spoonful, I got my first dose of what a harsh reality life was going to be. This was not the parade of flavor that the box had promised me! This was not fruity! There were no nuts! Why would they do that?! What I experienced that day, and what I was smoking this day were:
![grapenuts [1600x1200].jpg](https://www.botl.org/data/attachments/46/46792-b900d4a1253ee4b42a3efb3211225760.jpg "grapenuts [1600x1200].jpg")
Grape nuts. [REDACTED] Grape Nuts!!!
And this flavor stayed consisted all the way down to the end. Now, it's not that is was a bad flavor, per se. As an adult, my tastes have changed and Grape nuts are not offensive to me. But I wouldn't want to eat them for an hour, which is what smoking this was like.
The five reviewers on CI all praised this stick as "Unbelievable", "one of the best cigars I've ever smoked", "VERY, VERY GOOD!”, etc. And of these people I can only conclude: They are very, very regular.
Dog Rocket: Reserva Maxima by Puros Indios by Rolando Reyes <--that's way to involved for this cigar.
Acquired from: The justly maligned CI Dominican Grab Bag
Man, I need to get a better background if I'm gonna keep doing these.
So, for a change, this cigar actually exists. And you could buy them on CI for $1.65 a stick if they were not out of stock. Aww, too bad.
One reviewers there said that, " it was the by far the best cigar in the pack" and to that, I cannot disagree. It's the best cow patty in the field, to be sure. But a rocket by any other name will still launch a puppy into orbit.
Construction was decent, though a little spongy. The cut was clean. The burn throughout was relatively even.
The pre-light draw was...grainy? Not grainy the texture, but grainy like I just inhaled with my mouth pressed against a burlap bag of animal feed. Not horrible, but odd.
The first few puffs were a little grassy, but that went away quickly. It mellowed to that grainy taste again. I had tasted this before, but couldn't place it.
I grew up on a farm in NJ. I cannot tell you how many times during these DR reviews that scents and flavors from my farm childhood have been recalled. That's clearly a lie, since I've been doing exactly that. Great, now I'm a liar. Thanks Rolando! Making a liar out of me in public. Why I oughta... But I digress.
I'm working on pinning this flavor down and am a little over an inch in. The ash is hanging on and I go to take a pic. It falls, just as I hit the button.
Ahh, disappointment. Drat! And then it hits me.
I was probably 8 years old. My grandma Rita was unloading her groceries. And that's the first time The World At Large lied to me. Rita took a box of cereal out of her grocery back and I was filled with joy. The writing on the box indicated that a fruity and nutty experience awaited me for my next breakfast. Another amazing new taste experience for this young boy, eager to learn all the things.
The next day, as I took my first spoonful, I got my first dose of what a harsh reality life was going to be. This was not the parade of flavor that the box had promised me! This was not fruity! There were no nuts! Why would they do that?! What I experienced that day, and what I was smoking this day were:
Grape nuts. [REDACTED] Grape Nuts!!!
And this flavor stayed consisted all the way down to the end. Now, it's not that is was a bad flavor, per se. As an adult, my tastes have changed and Grape nuts are not offensive to me. But I wouldn't want to eat them for an hour, which is what smoking this was like.
The five reviewers on CI all praised this stick as "Unbelievable", "one of the best cigars I've ever smoked", "VERY, VERY GOOD!”, etc. And of these people I can only conclude: They are very, very regular.
SouthernerInSask
© MCMLXI
Yes thats it in your pic. I was listening to the Cigar Dave show & they played an advertisement for them. All i had ever smoked before was c-store cigars in the 80's, so i didnt know any difference, but the ad made these things sound so good, that i picked up a 3pack that day. After that i did start learning about "real" cigars, and its been all downhill since then.
SouthernerInSask
© MCMLXI
LOL i remember that experience also
Great review! Sounds better than a poke in the eye!
luckysaturn13
Smoke it if ya got it!
Why do all the horrible dog rockets have a hay like taste to em?
Ok it is done and here is the review.
Garcia y vega crystal maduro 6x40
Machine made with a maduro leaf wrapper. Not sure what the hell was inside.
Smoking time just under an hour.
Price- $2.15 each (seriously! Who would buy this for that?)
I got this from a guy at work that raved about them after I gave him a couple cheap cigars that cleared out of my humidor. He bought a box from a local shop for just shy of 50 bucks.
Nickname this guy "scar" after that giant vein running down the whole thing. The feel is oily despite being left out since February. It came pre punch cut on the end and I learned after the one I had then that if you try to use a cutter on it you will just rip the whole thing apart.
Very soft and spongy feel more than half way back, clear draw amd pre lite flavor of sweet hay. I know better. Lol
First light draw is like licking an ash tray. Pre lite draw is only a teaser.
1/3
I know some people have a foot fetish, but I am not one of them. So my imagination would lead me to believe that the flavors I am getting from the first third are those of the sweaty feet of a fire walker after he has done his thing... if you are into this thing it may be up your alley, just not mine.
2/3
Moving on the sponginess has gotten all the way to the end. The taste has gone from the fire walkers feet to just spooning the ashes out of the pit directly into my mouth. Just feel like my mouth is filled with ash and the 7 and ginger I am drinking is not touching it. But the hay comes back on the retro.
Final 3rd
Just look at that funky ash. Its like eye lashes.
Starting the final third I am getting a bunt acid taste. Kind of like when you put your tongue to a 9 volt battery. And its not going away. Yummy!
The acidity stays there til the band and now can only be imagined as the taste of the flaky corrosion around a battery post on an old car.
So final thoughts are that I have cotton acid mouth and I tap out when I get to the band.
They say it is an insult to the cigar to smash it out in the ash tray. Sorry but I could not stand to let it smoke in the ash tray.
@multi-useless you better pay up on this one.
Garcia y vega crystal maduro 6x40
Machine made with a maduro leaf wrapper. Not sure what the hell was inside.
Smoking time just under an hour.
Price- $2.15 each (seriously! Who would buy this for that?)
I got this from a guy at work that raved about them after I gave him a couple cheap cigars that cleared out of my humidor. He bought a box from a local shop for just shy of 50 bucks.
Nickname this guy "scar" after that giant vein running down the whole thing. The feel is oily despite being left out since February. It came pre punch cut on the end and I learned after the one I had then that if you try to use a cutter on it you will just rip the whole thing apart.
Very soft and spongy feel more than half way back, clear draw amd pre lite flavor of sweet hay. I know better. Lol
First light draw is like licking an ash tray. Pre lite draw is only a teaser.
1/3
I know some people have a foot fetish, but I am not one of them. So my imagination would lead me to believe that the flavors I am getting from the first third are those of the sweaty feet of a fire walker after he has done his thing... if you are into this thing it may be up your alley, just not mine.
2/3
Moving on the sponginess has gotten all the way to the end. The taste has gone from the fire walkers feet to just spooning the ashes out of the pit directly into my mouth. Just feel like my mouth is filled with ash and the 7 and ginger I am drinking is not touching it. But the hay comes back on the retro.
Final 3rd
Just look at that funky ash. Its like eye lashes.
Starting the final third I am getting a bunt acid taste. Kind of like when you put your tongue to a 9 volt battery. And its not going away. Yummy!
The acidity stays there til the band and now can only be imagined as the taste of the flaky corrosion around a battery post on an old car.
So final thoughts are that I have cotton acid mouth and I tap out when I get to the band.
They say it is an insult to the cigar to smash it out in the ash tray. Sorry but I could not stand to let it smoke in the ash tray.
@multi-useless you better pay up on this one.
luckysaturn13
Smoke it if ya got it!
Atta-boy!
luckysaturn13
Smoke it if ya got it!
it came in a bomb marked dog rockets... figured I'd smoke it and see if I liked it
SouthernerInSask
© MCMLXI
LOL! Great review! Too bad it wasnt a better smoke
If my experience with the Crystals Maduro had been as bad, i probably would have not tried any more cigars after that. On the other hand, if i were to try one now, i would probably find it to be as nasty as you describe it.
Very good point. This guy was telling me that they were the best cigars he had ever had and talked them up. By this point I had been in for a couple years. So I did some research and didnt have high hope. My tastes are little more refined than his. Its all a matter of preference. The cheapies I gave him I had once thought were awesome. Just grew out of them.
luckysaturn13
Smoke it if ya got it!
Just imagine how much his life would change if you gave him a few good ones! I found out a few weeks ago ihave a coworker who likes cigars. Hes been smoking things like hesitant pirates and oanama reds so I hooked him up with a libertad nica libre and a macundo he hasnt had a chance to smoke em yet though
8ball
Ruler of Grayskull
Hilarious! Yeah, your story is a carbon copy of mine with grape nuts.
Sweet biscuits, the burn on that thing looked awful. The horror!
8ball
Ruler of Grayskull
Oh man, thank you. I smoked these back in the day, and have thought about picking one up to see. Nah, I'm good now. Your pain, my gain.Ok it is done and here is the review.
Garcia y vega crystal maduro 6x40
Machine made with a maduro leaf wrapper. Not sure what the hell was inside.
Smoking time just under an hour.
Price- $2.15 each (seriously! Who would buy this for that?)
I got this from a guy at work that raved about them after I gave him a couple cheap cigars that cleared out of my humidor. He bought a box from a local shop for just shy of 50 bucks.
Nickname this guy "scar" after that giant vein running down the whole thing. The feel is oily despite being left out since February. It came pre punch cut on the end and I learned after the one I had then that if you try to use a cutter on it you will just rip the whole thing apart.
Very soft and spongy feel more than half way back, clear draw amd pre lite flavor of sweet hay. I know better. Lol
First light draw is like licking an ash tray. Pre lite draw is only a teaser.
1/3
I know some people have a foot fetish, but I am not one of them. So my imagination would lead me to believe that the flavors I am getting from the first third are those of the sweaty feet of a fire walker after he has done his thing... if you are into this thing it may be up your alley, just not mine.
2/3
Moving on the sponginess has gotten all the way to the end. The taste has gone from the fire walkers feet to just spooning the ashes out of the pit directly into my mouth. Just feel like my mouth is filled with ash and the 7 and ginger I am drinking is not touching it. But the hay comes back on the retro.
Final 3rd
Just look at that funky ash. Its like eye lashes.
Starting the final third I am getting a bunt acid taste. Kind of like when you put your tongue to a 9 volt battery. And its not going away. Yummy!
The acidity stays there til the band and now can only be imagined as the taste of the flaky corrosion around a battery post on an old car.
So final thoughts are that I have cotton acid mouth and I tap out when I get to the band.
They say it is an insult to the cigar to smash it out in the ash tray. Sorry but I could not stand to let it smoke in the ash tray.
@multi-useless you better pay up on this one.
c.ortiz108
The fly in the ointment.
So, @Kudzuma’s review reminded me I have a Puros India Viejo. So I decided to sacrifice it (and myself) for the kids of Esteli.
PUROS INDIOS VIEJO
Size: robusto
Country: Honduras
Wrapper: Sumatra
Price: $1.75 in bundles of 20 (marked down from $5.30!!!)
CI calls these “A golden oldie” – a olden moldy more like – and they say that they’ve been aging for “literally 6 years." Not figuratively, mind you, but literally six years. I've had this one for just under a year, having actually selected it from a box pass of allegedly cheap but good sticks. So lack of rest and lack of age are no excuse.
Petrochemicals on the cold draw. Surprisingly construction doesn't look half bad.
It started raining the minute I lit this thing up. Literally (not figuratively). You can even see it on the patio and flagstones if you don't believe in these kinds of bad omens.
You know when you're eating pistachios, and not really paying attention, and you bite into a rotten one that's horribly bitter, sour, and kind of fuzzy, and the flavor permeates your mouth and makes you want to gag before you've even realized your error? Yep. Or maybe it's more like bitter almonds (which they say arsenic tastes like), combined with one of those sourdough bread bowls they serve clam chowder in at Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco which has taken on some new godawful flavor from being left out on a table too long after being abandoned by a disappointed tourist and having a seagull shit on it.
I am detecting some cedar - at least one flavor desirable in a cigar. And to be fair, a little milk chocolate, but very mild and cheap, like dollar store no-name Halloween candy, but without any sweetness.
Medium body, and the smoke is... How shall I say, diffuse? Hazy? Like the brown smog that hangs over Los Angeles.
Woody, icky, burning papery, and bitter as hell. I feel like a lump of Red Man is lodged in my throat. When I was about 12 I stole a pouch of that stuff from a gas station, that's how I know. It's like a bad flashback.
Okay, this is just fuckin' horrible. Imagine Red Man dried out on fresh asphalt, then run over by a couple of diesel trucks, then stuffed into a paper bag and rolled up to resemble a cigar. I even inspect the wrapper to make sure it really is tobacco. The fact that they keep making these things shows that people actually buy them. Yet another mystery of human nature. There are 53 reviews of this stick on CI, and only 3 of them are negative. That means there are at least 50 people in the world who like them (or that a couple of people at CI pretend to).
My sinuses feel like I've just rushed into a burning orphanage and sought in vain for children to rescue, then had to be rescued myself.
It's seriously canoeing but I have no will to try and correct it. I have vowed to smoke this until it goes out, whenever that may be. No relights for this dog rocket, but I won't wuss out either. I'll let fate decide.
One weird thing is that I can't even tell what strength it is. The bitterness is like a solid block of nicotine and tar, but I'm not feeling any buzz even though this is my first cigar in almost 3 weeks due to a cold. Why did I start with this, you may ask? Yet another mystery of human nature... But I feel I have earned something from my top shelf for my next smoke.
The canoeing is just getting silly now. I've smoked half cigars before, but never lengthwise.
Surprisingly the ash is holding, though it is butt-ugly - living proof that a long ash does not always mean a quality cigar.
The finish reminds me of overcooked canned green beans - the kind they used to serve in school cafeterias when I was a kid before the California school board classified ketchup as a vegetable and they gave up even pretending to be concerned about children's health.
And it's out! Whew. Time to go gargle with a cocktail ammonia and muriatic acid.
PUROS INDIOS VIEJO
Size: robusto
Country: Honduras
Wrapper: Sumatra
Price: $1.75 in bundles of 20 (marked down from $5.30!!!)
CI calls these “A golden oldie” – a olden moldy more like – and they say that they’ve been aging for “literally 6 years." Not figuratively, mind you, but literally six years. I've had this one for just under a year, having actually selected it from a box pass of allegedly cheap but good sticks. So lack of rest and lack of age are no excuse.
Petrochemicals on the cold draw. Surprisingly construction doesn't look half bad.
It started raining the minute I lit this thing up. Literally (not figuratively). You can even see it on the patio and flagstones if you don't believe in these kinds of bad omens.
You know when you're eating pistachios, and not really paying attention, and you bite into a rotten one that's horribly bitter, sour, and kind of fuzzy, and the flavor permeates your mouth and makes you want to gag before you've even realized your error? Yep. Or maybe it's more like bitter almonds (which they say arsenic tastes like), combined with one of those sourdough bread bowls they serve clam chowder in at Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco which has taken on some new godawful flavor from being left out on a table too long after being abandoned by a disappointed tourist and having a seagull shit on it.
I am detecting some cedar - at least one flavor desirable in a cigar. And to be fair, a little milk chocolate, but very mild and cheap, like dollar store no-name Halloween candy, but without any sweetness.
Medium body, and the smoke is... How shall I say, diffuse? Hazy? Like the brown smog that hangs over Los Angeles.
Woody, icky, burning papery, and bitter as hell. I feel like a lump of Red Man is lodged in my throat. When I was about 12 I stole a pouch of that stuff from a gas station, that's how I know. It's like a bad flashback.
Okay, this is just fuckin' horrible. Imagine Red Man dried out on fresh asphalt, then run over by a couple of diesel trucks, then stuffed into a paper bag and rolled up to resemble a cigar. I even inspect the wrapper to make sure it really is tobacco. The fact that they keep making these things shows that people actually buy them. Yet another mystery of human nature. There are 53 reviews of this stick on CI, and only 3 of them are negative. That means there are at least 50 people in the world who like them (or that a couple of people at CI pretend to).
My sinuses feel like I've just rushed into a burning orphanage and sought in vain for children to rescue, then had to be rescued myself.
It's seriously canoeing but I have no will to try and correct it. I have vowed to smoke this until it goes out, whenever that may be. No relights for this dog rocket, but I won't wuss out either. I'll let fate decide.
One weird thing is that I can't even tell what strength it is. The bitterness is like a solid block of nicotine and tar, but I'm not feeling any buzz even though this is my first cigar in almost 3 weeks due to a cold. Why did I start with this, you may ask? Yet another mystery of human nature... But I feel I have earned something from my top shelf for my next smoke.
The canoeing is just getting silly now. I've smoked half cigars before, but never lengthwise.
Surprisingly the ash is holding, though it is butt-ugly - living proof that a long ash does not always mean a quality cigar.
The finish reminds me of overcooked canned green beans - the kind they used to serve in school cafeterias when I was a kid before the California school board classified ketchup as a vegetable and they gave up even pretending to be concerned about children's health.
And it's out! Whew. Time to go gargle with a cocktail ammonia and muriatic acid.
SouthernerInSask
© MCMLXI
Awesome review Chico! So many great descriptions there lol...
If someone ever prints a book of cigar review quotes, im sure this would be in the first chapter!
SouthernerInSask
© MCMLXI
LMAO! ^^^
Great job Bondo!
Great job Bondo!
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