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Could this be used for Salomons?My first attempt at a 54 mold with a strip of paper around the the neck to bring it down to 44 at the head.
maybe. I found it to be kind of tedious to get it right. If you use a strip of paper only you can get what ever shape you want. The amount of tobacco will determine the shape. use an even amount of pressure when your binding with the paper and adjust the tobacco to make corrections in size. It's important to be in a consistent and correct case. It really is in the feel of pressure in molding with paper to get the shape your looking for. keep in mind that it will firm up after it dries so the pressure your looking for is softer then what you might think at first.
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Thanks a lot. Yeah, it smoked killer.
Great post MarcL. Been thinking about this for a while. It seems the best smoking cigars are hand rolled using proper pressure and let the tobacco determine where it wants to be. Even the shape of the cigar can be sculpted to whatever you want. The use of a mold introduces an element of conformity and many times can be under or over filled depending on the leaf thickness. So, try as you may, there will always be some too tight, slightly tight, too loose, slightly loose etc.. because it has to meet the rules of conformity for the sake of appearance.
The paper rolled/hand rolled cigar has always come out perfect with a wonderful draw. You can feel the right amount of pressure when rolling. The only problem is it does take more time and each cigar is a bit different than the next. This is probably the reason the cigar mold was invented. It's a faster method and more perfectly uniform to fit perfectly in a box but the completely hand rolled yields the finest smoking experience imo. We have the luxury of rolling these fully hand rolled cigars for our own enjoyment. We have the time. I don't believe you can go out and buy this cigar. Think about it...does any manufacturer make a 100% hand rolled cigar NOT using a mold?
This one element of cigar rolling allows us to do what you can't buy and hand rolling is what makes it truly an art form.
Nice post Gdaddy. but you seem to have forgotten these laddies at Dannemann Cigar factory.
I have not smoked them but, confidence is high. I believe in these ladies.
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Apropos all this, I just now finished a 2014 Cuban Partagas on the porch. I had been rolled so tight that it was like sucking on a tootsie roll. Might wear out your average Lieberman making these. Sent me by the inventor of the Modus cigar tool, to demonstrate the efficacy of his cigar poker tool. Sent with three of his Modus pokers, for me to consider putting one or the other on my web site for sale. He sent two wooden & one metal. Metal includes a plug cutter, nub fork, and barbed poker. The wooden ones come in Chinese "rosewood" or "ebony" (I have my doubts) -- no plug cutter. The metal ones have a harpoon looking barb on the poker. The wood ones just slots in the poker to serve as as barbs. I am absolutely convinced I never could have smoked this Cuban without first poking it thru and thru with either his $40 tool or some similar device. Took ten minutes patient poking to get the pick thru without splitting. An excellent tasting cigar, true. I can see why he's addicted to these too tight Cubans. Damn strong for me, tho. I need a nap after.
On the other hand, just this morning I rolled a chubby quickie out of two LO Hond viso entubado, round one accordioned San V ligero, double bound in one LO Hond seco, then wrapped with a delicate FX CT shade. That stick feels way way mushy by comparo. Prolly as much baccy in the skinny Cuban corona as in this chubby. I guarantee the chubby's flavor will be suave and the draw equallysuave. Struggling to get my quickies firm without a mold. Sides came out parallel enough. I don't think that's an issue with a quickie once you catch on to filling the ends more. Just that it's proving impossible to make them firm without either a strong binder or a day in the mold. I don't think it's all that tough to get a good parejo shape without a mold. Much harder to get an even & repeatable perfecto shape without a mold. The real difficulty is to get them firm unless you use a strong binder. Yesterday, I used a Butcher KY grown PA broadleaf for binder. Came out good and firm. Made the parejo shape irregular. But firm. Don't like what it does for the flavor tho. If I had some Dom binder I would double bind w/ that. Prolly be the best of both worlds.
No, I don't think it's shape so much as firmness that suffers when rolling without a mold.
Any of you tried the Modus or similar? What do you think of it? Useful, or marginal?
On the other hand, just this morning I rolled a chubby quickie out of two LO Hond viso entubado, round one accordioned San V ligero, double bound in one LO Hond seco, then wrapped with a delicate FX CT shade. That stick feels way way mushy by comparo. Prolly as much baccy in the skinny Cuban corona as in this chubby. I guarantee the chubby's flavor will be suave and the draw equallysuave. Struggling to get my quickies firm without a mold. Sides came out parallel enough. I don't think that's an issue with a quickie once you catch on to filling the ends more. Just that it's proving impossible to make them firm without either a strong binder or a day in the mold. I don't think it's all that tough to get a good parejo shape without a mold. Much harder to get an even & repeatable perfecto shape without a mold. The real difficulty is to get them firm unless you use a strong binder. Yesterday, I used a Butcher KY grown PA broadleaf for binder. Came out good and firm. Made the parejo shape irregular. But firm. Don't like what it does for the flavor tho. If I had some Dom binder I would double bind w/ that. Prolly be the best of both worlds.
No, I don't think it's shape so much as firmness that suffers when rolling without a mold.
Any of you tried the Modus or similar? What do you think of it? Useful, or marginal?
I like the idea that the newest wave of pokers have the idea that your pushing or pulling some of that over stuffing out of there with some barbing on the shaft but, poking a plugged cigar I find to be nearly useless. we are better off re-rolling them.
note: a certain cigar size needs to weigh a certain amount and, leaf placement needs to be correct for it to perform right. firmness increases with setup time.