Ring gauges like 60 and up. They are uncomfortable for me to hold in my mouth. I have to give it my full attention and can't free my hands up to do anything else. Plus the amount of niccotine really messes me up. I had a diesel shorty the other day and felt sick. My buds say I take too many drags too often. I smoke once a week, maybe two at most. I consider having a cigar a treat like dessert and these mammoth sticks are too much all at once. I would prefer the same tobacco rolled a bit thinner and longer.